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04-22-2011, 08:26 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Religion and Prog
As Macan wisely noted in his book, religious motifs are important in prog composition.
When they want to bring a sense of "upliftingness" to the climax of an epic, what did the old progsters make use of?: Western liturgical music, choral music... These heavy religious leanings are nigh trademarks of epic prog tracks. Look at the bassist's rising line in YES's "Awaken" - and other YES tracks. How do epics like "Supper's Ready" or "3 Friends" end? You got it. True (UK and Italy) 70s prog borrows from the Romantic era (Wagnerian majesty) and Baroque counterpoint. These are highly religious-sounding. So, Im not gonna argue this. This is FACT: when you want to make your prog "rise" to grandiosity you bring in 1/layering, 2/ religious motifs. Bagg's isnt talking "the message" here at all. This isnt a hype for Christian Prog - most of which is shjit-outa-ass anyways. So far Baggs has just spoken of composition. So far. But Baggs is gonna make this thread EASY for you to participate in. We ARE going to talk of lyrics. Maybe even themes/concepts. I dont expect you to quote lyrics which support or negate religion in prog. Baggs realizes your a lazy , non-contributing lot here. And that would be asking too much. JUST LIST PROG SONGS WHICH DEAL IN FAITH (OR NON-FAITH). If you try, you just might learn that prog indeed is often very much religion-concerned. Dont turn this into another thread where the only one contributing is the origional poster. That just makes you all look ...spongey. If you dont care to contribute. If you dont like prog...why are you here? |
04-22-2011, 08:32 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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So whats the first one that comes to most minds.
Baggs is thinking "Aqualung". Highly anti-God. Side two is basically a concept on it. So, there we go. Our first example of religion in prog. "God stole the handle and The train won't stop going -- No way to slow down. " - "Locomotive Breath" |
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04-22-2011, 08:45 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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Now Baggs asks you:
what is the most-used theme in the canon of Prog? It is the (Romantic) theme of NATURE. Then WAR figures highly in Prog. (You would think Psych would have more to do with the theme of war, wouldnt you? But I contend prog covers the bases even to a greater extent.) Thirdly , I submit, come the themes of Death and Religion. "I think more people would be inclined to participate (and not troll) if you were less condescending. " Sometimes it benefits to spark people into action. (In SOME cases nothing helps since stagnation is afterall...stagnation.) But I shall try to be a good doggie, if you so insist. (Also since good behaviour - and modesty- has always been with The Baggman a distinguishing attribute.) Roll up! I give you five ducks, then its your turn. hokay? Here goes: DIONYSOS - Agnus Dies BOLLENBERG -holy blood ISIAH - prophet FUNCTION - last two tracks of the Maestro lp HAMMILL - the lie ..... One is not supposed to work on Good Friday. But Baggs is leaving you now to paint the concrete basement floor of an 82 year-old neighbour who cant afford to hire someone - (since Canada is on its hands and knees and old folks can only get feckin' 1.9% on their investments).. Because THATS what Baggs is about. When Baggs returns, Baggs expects to be inundated with a flood of response to this thread. GORDON GILTRAP - Gethsemane GILA - sacred (Krautrock is top-heavy with religiousity) MAINHORSE -God EKSEPTION -ave maria COMMUNIDADE -enchiovos, vamos, camisar PATERNOSTER-the pope is wrong TRIFLE-new religion TIM BLAKE - New Jerusalem PROGRESS- there is light JONAS OCH EINAR -is god real? GET IT ON! SPIRIT OF CHRISTMAS -Lazarus YES - dear father STRAY - sister mary MONKMAN -Lord's prayer TRITONIOUS - Lady Madonna GET... GET.... GET IT ON! |
04-22-2011, 12:46 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Lock it then.
Like you lock away all attempts at dissemination of wisdom and taste here. Lock it deep and throw away the key. (And after you do this, look up the film "Red Violin" and watch the communist China part of said film.) ...... OFFENBACH -Saint-Chrone de Néant (the prog equivalent of Electric Prunes - Mass in Wotsit) TURNER & KIRWIN -father Murphy DIES IRAE- Armaggedon VISITORS - dies Irae BAKERY - rock mass PROCOL - shine on brightly IVORY - incantation SCHOENER- meditation OUT OF FOCUS - blue Sunday WHITSUNTIDE EASTER -coming of Messiah WAKIEPOOS - 1984 hymn EELA CRAIG - missa universalis GROUNDHOGS - split 4 SISA - La cathedra STRAWBS -benedictus, the man who called himself Jesus KINGDOM COME - hymn WIGWAM - never turn you in JUKKA GUSTAFFSSON - the entire lp! MAGNA CARTA - father Time KILLING FLOOR -out of Uranus ELOY - de labor solis RODAN - Watchtower seller SEATRAIN - Job MANFRED MANN EARTHBAND - father of night PLUS - 20,000 people CANTERBURY GLASS - gloria JON ANDERSON - to the flyer |
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