Hip Hop Poll: Round 1, Poll L

[djchameleon]

Dre gets the slight edge over Kurtis Blow for me.

[Janszoon]

Dre, easily. I like his music far more than any of those guys and he's arguably the most influential of the bunch.

[RandyMarsh]

Dre, despite the fact he's never written a line in his life. He has a good flow and delivery and to be honest the rest of those acts are just "meh" at best.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by RandyMarsh

Dre, despite the fact he's never written a line in his life. He has a good flow and delivery and to be honest the rest of those acts are just "meh" at best.

Wait a second... you're voting Dre because of his rapping?

[RandyMarsh]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Wait a second... you're voting Dre because of his rapping?

Over the others, yes. It's not much of a contest they're all terrible rappers and Dre doesn't even write his own lyrics but yet is still superior, that's just how bad the others are.

Besides this is a thread for deciding the best rapper right? Why else would I vote for him? "I vote dre 'cause I like his haircut?" gtfo.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by RandyMarsh

Besides this is a thread for deciding the best rapper right?

These are greatest hip hop artist polls, not simply best rapper polls.

Originally Posted by RandyMarsh

Why else would I vote for him? "I vote dre 'cause I like his haircut?" gtfo.

Um... how about because he's one of the greatest producers in the history of hip hop?

[RandyMarsh]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

These are greatest hip hop artist polls, not simply best rapper polls.

So rapping and producing? How many of the people nominated in these polls does both? You nominate a rapper I'll rate them on their rapping skill. Simple.

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Um... how about because he's one of the greatest producers in the history of hip hop?

lol really? Surely that comes down to preference, there's no right or wrong with producing, just what you enjoy.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by RandyMarsh

So rapping and producing? How many of the people nominated in these polls does both? You nominate a rapper I'll rate them on their rapping skill. Simple.

Again, it's "greatest hip hop artist" not "greatest rapper". You're supposed to rate the people nominated based on the whole creative package, not simply rapping ability.

In the case of Dr. Dre, he's known primarily as producer so it seems particularly odd to judge him solely based on his rapping ability.

Originally Posted by RandyMarsh

lol really? Surely that comes down to preference, there's no right or wrong with producing, just what you enjoy.

Same with rapping. What's your point?

[Phantom Limb]

Raekwon all the way.

[RandyMarsh]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Again, it's "greatest hip hop artist" not "greatest rapper". You're supposed to rate the people nominated based on the whole creative package, not simply rapping ability.


In the case of Dr. Dre, he's known primarily as producer so it seems particularly odd to judge him solely based on his rapping ability.

Not really fair to compare a rapper with a rapper AND producer. Either compare their rapping skills or don't compare. DJ Premier is a great producer but Kanye raps, sings and produces, it's not a fair comparison unless you compare them simply as producers. Same for Dre vs the other artists in the poll.

And personally I'd say he's better known for his record label and NWA days.

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Same with rapping. What's your point?

Not really. 50 cent is a bad rapper, not debatable. You can like bad rappers but they're still bad rappers. Producing is more of a preference thing, you say Dre, I say Nujabes. Two VERY different producers but there's no wrong. Rap is more technical, you have specific aspects, flow, delivery, lyricism etc. There's no such thing as a bad beat, just a beat you dislike. But there is such a thing as a bad rapper. There's a way to measure rap ability, based on effective use of lyricism and flow etc but there's no way to measure a good beat. That's my opinion on it anyway.