Most overrated bands ever?

[the_dp]

Originally Posted by Laughing Boy

I didn't know influence was subjective now.

name some major influences he has had then, douchebag.

People say they listened to Dylan or liked Dylan, but no one tried to emulate him. And he was a pretentious nuts from the get go. Just because you like to jump on his nuts doesn't mean that he was good. Lot's of women like Oprah. That doesn't mean she is anything but a fat dumb wench.

You aren't even refuting anything.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by the_dp

People say they listened to Dylan or liked Dylan, but no one tried to emulate him.

Say WHAT now?

[the_dp]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Say WHAT now?

name one

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by the_dp

name one

Just this year we had The Tallest Man on Earth.

[Dr_Rez]

Originally Posted by the_dp

name one

There are countless bands/artists influenced by him. In every genre also.

One you would never guess is Wyclef Jean, he states Dylan as one of if not his main influence.

Black Crowes
Neil Young
Michael Stipe
John Lennon
Jimmy Hendrix

And these are just a few of probably hundreds. These are not made up by me or anyone else, these artists have actually told reporters or media that he was one of if not the most influential in making there music.

edit: and think of the countless times his songs have been remade. The biggest being All Along the Watchtower. And your telling me he doesn't influence anyone!!!

edit2: Dp you do not back up anything you argue, and also calling people dbags doesnt help your case

[the_dp]

Originally Posted by RezZ

There are countless bands/artists influenced by him. In every genre also.

One you would never guess is Wyclef Jean, he states Dylan as one of if not his main influence.

Black Crowes
Neil Young
Michael Stipe
John Lennon
Jimmy Hendrix

And these are just a few of probably hundreds. These are not made up by me or anyone else, these artists have actually told reporters or media that he was one of if not the most influential in making there music.



edit: and think of the countless times his songs have been remade. The biggest being All Along the Watchtower. And your telling me he doesn't influence anyone!!!

edit2: Dp you do not back up anything you argue, and also calling people dbags doesnt help your case

All Along the Watch Tower is notable, but not even one of Hendrix better songs. If they are my opinions then I do not need to back them up other than with my opinion, which is kind of redundant. You are clearly just offended that I have a differing opinion, being a music snob and whatnot. If someone calls me a liar for my opinions I feel obligated to point out their buffoonery.

I said the guy is overrated and you people prove my point. You can't say "wow, he really sang that song well." or "wow, his guitar was wonderful on that song" or "wow, that song meant a lot to me." it is just some dumb understanding that people have that he is good. He isn't wasn't and no artist that was primarily influenced by Dylan is good. The Black Crowes? One hit wonder suckfest. Wyclef? Come on! Michael Stipe? Self-important crybaby political ponce. John Lennon? WAAAYYYY overrated. Jimmy Hendrix? Like'em, but not THAT influenced by Dylan; and probably more Chuck Berry than Dylan. Neil Young? Many influences and far superior to Dylan in songwriting, singing and performing, not to mention more of a contemporary than anything. And which of those artists are actually new? none, because younger generations are smart enough and not too brainwashed to realize Dylan was pure crap.

[Dr_Rez]

Originally Posted by the_dp

All Along the Watch Tower is notable, but not even one of Hendrix better songs. If they are my opinions then I do not need to back them up other than with my opinion, which is kind of redundant. You are clearly just offended that I have a differing opinion, being a music snob and whatnot. If someone calls me a liar for my opinions I feel obligated to point out their buffoonery.

I said the guy is overrated and you people prove my point. You can't say "wow, he really sang that song well." or "wow, his guitar was wonderful on that song" or "wow, that song meant a lot to me." it is just some dumb understanding that people have that he is good. He isn't wasn't and no artist that was primarily influenced by Dylan is good. The Black Crowes? One hit wonder suckfest. Wyclef? Come on! Michael Stipe? Self-important crybaby political ponce. John Lennon? WAAAYYYY overrated. Jimmy Hendrix? Like'em, but not THAT influenced by Dylan; and probably more Chuck Berry than Dylan. Neil Young? Many influences and far superior to Dylan in songwriting, singing and performing, not to mention more of a contemporary than anything. And which of those artists are actually new? none, because younger generations are smart enough and not too brainwashed to realize Dylan was pure crap.

1. In no way shape or form am i a music snob, and if you think so please tell me how. Use example and back up what you say for once.

2. It does not matter how good All Along the Watchtower was compared to his other songs (hendrix im talking about) and it does not matter how much you think the bands i listed suck. Its simply the fact there influenced by Dylan.

3. Before you go off on your uneducated rant about how Dylan is crap (which i am fine with, i do not like him much myself) remember what i am actually arguing with you about. You claimed he did not influence any artists in the music industry, and that noone went on to try and make music like he did. Which is obviously wrong because i have shown you a few example which you dissmissed because you thought they were crap.



Please come back with a real argument, without the name calling, and actually have facts to back up what you are saying.


edit: And stop continually saying no artist ifluenced by Dylan isn't good... That may be the case, but doesn't change the fact that Dylan influenced them greatly, and as Jay said was the voice of a culture.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by the_dp

I said the guy is overrated and you people prove my point. You can't say "wow, he really sang that song well." or "wow, his guitar was wonderful on that song" or "wow, that song meant a lot to me." it is just some dumb understanding that people have that he is good.

Don't be a douche, of course you can feel that way about a Bob Dylan song. I'm no Dylan fan and I certainly think he's overrated. But calling him an objectively bad musician is just garbage. He's not a great singer or guitarist by any means, but he wrote songs where virtuosity isn't required. Theres nothing wrong with that.

He isn't wasn't and no artist that was primarily influenced by Dylan is good.

This is the most idiotic thing I have heard in a long time.

Come on! Michael Stipe? Self-important crybaby political ponce.

Newsflash, most rock stars are self important, that dosen't take away anything.

John Lennon? WAAAYYYY overrated.

It's hard not to be a little overrated when you're the greatest songwriter in popular music.

Oh and calling Lennon overrated dosen't take away form Dylans impact, he was a big influence on Lennon who in turn is one of the most influencial songwriters of all time. Rest assured you some music that's influenced by The Beatles.

Jimmy Hendrix? Like'em, but not THAT influenced by Dylan; and probably more Chuck Berry than Dylan

Wrong. He was very influenced by Dylan. As a guitarist he was more influenced by players like Buddy Guy, but as a songwriter and lyricist he considered Dylan a big inspiration to him. It's even been alledged that the reason he hired Noel Redding as his bassist was because he liked his Dylan hairstyle.

Neil Young? Many influences and far superior to Dylan in songwriting, singing and performing, not to mention more of a contemporary than anything.

I too think Young is better, but that dosen't take away from Dylans impact.

And which of those artists are actually new? none, because younger generations are smart enough and not too brainwashed to realize Dylan was pure crap.

Conor Oberst, Elliot Smith, Tom Pety, Roger Waters, Lou Reed, Patti Smith, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Waits, David Bowie and The Byrds were all influenced by Dylan.