Most overrated bands ever?

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

I find that unlikely, seeming as I've seen nothing to that effect in any Wilson interview on the topic, and the point that use of Indian instrumentation in folk rock had been done elsewhere (hence why the Beatles predictably thought to do it in the first place!).

Putting Sitar in a pop song was a pretty novel idea.

You may be correct that Wilson was also influenced not just by the apparent flow and unity of the tracks but by the use of sitar on that one song - though you ought to give a source if you make the claim, to give it some credence.

Whats your source for Wilson being influenced by the flow of the album and nothing else.

With regard to the rest of what you wrote, I think it suffices in showing that you don't really claim that prog wouldn't have existed without the Beatles. Clearly prog was going to happen and you know it, bro, Beatles or no Beatles.

But it probably would have sucked. Like I said before, many of the most significant prog bands were very influenced by The Beatles.

And with regard to the more diverse lyricism including stream-of-consciousness, again Lennon and McCartney were drawn towards that by other artists of the time, including of course Bob Dylan (who was a direct influence upon I Am The Walrus).

Yeah, and they put it in the context of music that blended various genres. You're just pointing out all traces of The Beatles influence and telling me it strips them of any originality. What they did was innovative in the context of POP music.

And I think being the most innovative pop act ever is more important than just a folk singer who decided to go electric.

By the way, boo boo, what are you actually referring to by Magical Mystery Tour?

US LP version.

The MMJ double EP had six songs on it - Magical Mysery Tour (half-arsed attempt at re-creating the opener to Sgt Pepper), Fool On The Hill (a truly good song with great lyrics), the relatively uninteresting instrumental Flying, Harrison's derivative Blue Jay Way, I Am The Walrus, and a standard McCartney 50s musical hall piece, Your Mother Should Know. The only particularly great offerings on it are Walrus and FotH. And the latter, while a great song in its own right, was unlikely to have much influence on the development of prog.

I disagree with the bulk of this. Strawberry Fields Forever, I Am the Walrus, Penny Lane, Hello Goodbay, All You Need is Love and Fool on the Hill are all great songs, everything else is good too, the only weak track IMO is Flying.