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shtajiryan 01-18-2013 04:47 PM

I need a new Acoustic guitar and need a little help :)
 
Hey guys and girls, I'm new to the forums, so nice to meet you all!
I am planning on buying a new Acoustic guitar, and was wondering what to choose. I'm mainly going to use the guitar unplugged, so I care more about the Acoustic sound. And well, the price limit is something close to $400. I'm thinking about the Ovation CC24, but would like to hear some objections or alternatives. Thanks in advance!

Bloozcrooz 01-18-2013 04:58 PM

Go to a music store and play every guitar within your price range till you hear one thats what you were looking for. Name brand isn't always the best way to go, just explore your options.

shtajiryan 01-18-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz (Post 1276207)
Go to a music store and play every guitar within your price range till you hear one thats what you were looking for. Name brand isn't always the best way to go, just explore your options.

There are no music stores with a big collection of guitars to choose from in my area, 10 at most, and old models, and very expensive too, compared to the original prices. Mainly there is just 1 brand of a guitar. Yamaha for example and that's all. That's why I need thoughts of different people who have tried different guitars, as I personally cannot do it..

ThePhanastasio 01-18-2013 11:39 PM

I'd recommend Seagull or Takamine's G series.

I personally don't like Ovation, but I know people who do, so that's all a matter of personal preference.

Edit: I came damn close to buying the G440c by Takamine; gorgeous guitar, and the tone had everything I was looking for in the price range.

P A N 01-18-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1276294)
I personally don't like Ovation, but I know people who do, so that's all a matter of personal preference.

i'm with phantasio on that one. i don't like the way sound hits plastic... they project pretty well, but they sound synthetic to me. no warmth.

i would suggest waiting until you have an opportunity to go to a city where there is a larger selection... save up some extra dough... maybe even enough to spend a little more on the guitar itself. make a little adventure of it.

shtajiryan 01-19-2013 06:47 AM

Well thanks for the info. I looked up the seagull guitars, they are not so affordable for me, so I came upon the Takamine G series FXC, G260C to be precise. So now I'm between G260C Takamine and CC24 Ovation. What about Yamahas guys?

mr dave 01-19-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shtajiryan (Post 1276357)
So now I'm between G260C Takamine and CC24 Ovation. What about Yamahas guys?

Yamahas are really hit or miss, the quality between the same model guitar can vary quite a bit, especially with older models, they are very much a 'try before you buy' guitar.

Like the others have mentioned, I'm not a fan of Ovation guitars. I find their rounded backs make them problematic to play while sitting down as they have a tendency to slip out from underneath you. The model you list is also an acoustic/electric hybrid. Were you planning on plugging into an amp?

The Takamine is a more traditional acoustic, no pickup, and the model I'd personally go for based on what's been discussed in this thread.

Plankton 01-19-2013 07:30 AM

I wouldn't get an Ovation in the price range you're looking at. The quality isn't there until you get up past the 1k range. Takamine is an excellent choice, also look into Cort acoustics. Thay have some good quality ones for kinda cheap.

shtajiryan 01-19-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1276363)
Yamahas are really hit or miss, the quality between the same model guitar can vary quite a bit, especially with older models, they are very much a 'try before you buy' guitar.

Like the others have mentioned, I'm not a fan of Ovation guitars. I find their rounded backs make them problematic to play while sitting down as they have a tendency to slip out from underneath you. The model you list is also an acoustic/electric hybrid. Were you planning on plugging into an amp?

The Takamine is a more traditional acoustic, no pickup, and the model I'd personally go for based on what's been discussed in this thread.

I really don't think I'm ever going to plug it in, that's why I'm more on the Takamine side. So basically it's almost settled. I'll do some more research on the topic fore sure and post my new findings here. Thanks all!

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1276374)
I wouldn't get an Ovation in the price range you're looking at. The quality isn't there until you get up past the 1k range. Takamine is an excellent choice, also look into Cort acoustics. Thay have some good quality ones for kinda cheap.

I'll look up Cort acoustics! Thanks!

GuitarBizarre 01-19-2013 08:44 AM

Try the Breedlove ranges. I went through a raft of acoustic guitars buying mine and eventually settled on the Breedlove Passport D20 F/S.

That said, acoustic guitars, more than any other guitar, are very much a personal taste. You NEED to play a few and pick the best, (Even of an individual model, since wood is wood and has varying qualities from piece to piece) otherwise its simply not worth it.

shtajiryan 01-19-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1276395)
Try the Breedlove ranges. I went through a raft of acoustic guitars buying mine and eventually settled on the Breedlove Passport D20 F/S.

That said, acoustic guitars, more than any other guitar, are very much a personal taste. You NEED to play a few and pick the best, (Even of an individual model, since wood is wood and has varying qualities from piece to piece) otherwise its simply not worth it.

I really cannot play different guitars in my location. Especially Ovation or Breedlove or anything else, we have only cheapass Yamahas. So basically I'll have to go with luck. After all consideration I'm still between Takamine G260C and Ovation CC24. With the information given I guess I'll get the Takamine. What about Fender Acoustics?

And I've read in a few places about a small size of G260C. What could it mean? "The G260C FXC fingerstyle model is a small body instrument that is extremely comfortable to play whether on stage or relaxing in your home." This is said on the official webpage of the Guitar.. Does anyone know what It means?

Plankton 01-21-2013 08:28 AM

It has a shallow body, meaning the thickness of the body is about 3.5" as opposed to about 5" in dreadnaught style bodies.

shtajiryan 01-21-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1277032)
It has a shallow body, meaning the thickness of the body is about 3.5" as opposed to about 5" in dreadnaught style bodies.

But do you think this is going to noticeably affect the acoustics?

Plankton 01-21-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shtajiryan (Post 1277235)
But do you think this is going to noticeably affect the acoustics?

It does. They're generally used in a plugged in setting, while a dread body will boom a bit more, and the mids are a bit smoother in tone.

shtajiryan 01-21-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1277239)
It does. They're generally used in a plugged in setting, while a dread body will boom a bit more, and the mids are a bit smoother in tone.

Then what good alternative would you offer to the G260C?

Plankton 01-21-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shtajiryan (Post 1277245)
Then what good alternative would you offer to the G260C?

Based on this:

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Originally Posted by shtajiryan (Post 1276204)
I'm mainly going to use the guitar unplugged, so I care more about the Acoustic sound. And well, the price limit is something close to $400.

I'd go with this:

Seagull Cedar Slim Acoustic Dreadnought | Musician's Friend

This guys review is pretty intensive:

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The S6 slim is an excellent guitar for [$] (or buy it when there's a sale -- I paid like [$] over Fourth of July). I don't think you could find a better one in this price range. I got it as a backup guitar that I don't have to worry about. It's no Martin HD-28 or Gibson AJ, but for the price it sounds very good. Balanced (not too boomy -- probably because it is has slightly more sloped shoulders, slightly narrower waist, and slightly less depth than a typical dreadnaught, and the wood is, well, a little cheaper). Pretty good volume. Some sparkle. Decent sustain. For this price, getting a solid top is pretty impressive (it's cedar, not spruce, but resonates pretty nicely). Yes the back and sides are 3-layer laminate, but at least it's three layers of actual wood (even though it's cherry, not mahogany or rosewood), unlike a lot of cheap guitars. I would definitely recommend the "slim" neck, which is in fact a normal neck. The standard S6 has a nut width that's significantly wider than most acoustics and electrics, and a bit hard to play. Not impossible, but unless you're a huge fingerpicker (in which case you probably have a better guitar than this), I don't see the point in getting a guitar with a wider nut than all the other guitars I own. Just makes it hard to swap back and forth. I also like the cream body binding on the slim model -- just looks nicer than the chocolate binding on the standard S6. Even so, it's not the most attractive guitar on earth. The cedar top is pretty bland looking, and it is very soft and so scuffs easily. The color and grain of the cherry sides and back are not that attractive and don't look that great with the top, but who cares, it's not a beauty contest. I ordered mine online. Normally I'd have reservations about buying an acoustic instrument without playing it first, but at this price I wasn't worried (and could return it if necessary). These are production guitars, they don't vary that much. You could probably find a gem or a dud, but most of them sound quite similar. The setup out of the box was very good. Neck is practcally straight (tiny bow, as it should have), and the action is pretty low. Could probably go a mm lower without buzzing, so I may tweak it someday by filing the saddle a bit. Bottom line, it's an excellent choice. I haven't played a better guitar for [$], or even $600-700.
I may even get one.

shtajiryan 01-22-2013 03:06 AM

Well thanks everyone for your help!


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