s_k

I've never really heard a Grado properly.
I used their Red Cartridge for years and I do know they should be taken seriously. But their headphones are way out of reach for me, financially.
So I'll just stick with AKG and Beyer and hope for a miracle.
I mean, my DT990 was $1 .

They really made some brilliant amplifiers back in the 70's.
And that's really it.

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Dr_Rez

I own a pair of mid lvl bose bookshelf speakers and they sound ****ing amazing. They cost about 200 each and sound better than any of the previous ones I have had. Although its probably has alot to do with the bomb ass Yamaha receiver as well.

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s_k

Sorry mate, the reason they sound good is that your previous speakers were awful.
The Boses don't sound good. They're probably 201's or 301's (as you call them 'mid level').
Compared to a lot of (affordable!) speakers, these boses are well... Bad.

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oYour totally right, because you know exactly what speakers iv owned, and you yourself own a pair of these 301's and have put them in a soundtest against comparable brands speakers.

I spend my entire day listening to loud music through many sets of speakers, so pardon me if I think you sound like a jackarse blindly calling them ****ty.

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I don't need to know what speakers you've owned to know the boses aren't good .
And yes of course I've compared them. How else would I know that they don't sound good?

And I'm sorry for sounding like a jackass, so let me put this differently.
There's a lot of speakers way better than Bose (any bose, really), even for smaller amounts of money. Klipsch and Wharfedale have some very nice speakers for less money.

It's not like I try to make you feel bad. I just know my stuff man. Can't help it.
If you don't want to believe me, see what guitarbizarre says. Bose is all about marketing.
If you don't want to believe him, just google 'don't buy bose' and find out.
My English isn't good enough to explain it to you properly, but there's a lot of information on the internet about this subject.
Audio enthuisiasts have been trying to convince people not to buy bose since the late 70's.
It's been like this for years now.
Please google and see that I'm not just some idiot with crappy ears .

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Indeed they are all about the marketing. That is besides the point. So is Gibson and Fender yet I still swear by there products like many others. My dad owns a similar watted and priced Boston Accoustics set, as well as Polk Audio set. We have tried them all to see which we liked better in the same small room with he same reciever and found the Bose set to have far better clarity even at higher volcumes.

Also with a ****ty receiver that is not made for your speakers they will not sound good. Maybe thats what the problom is?

This argument seems the same as the one I come across when Hardley Davidson is being talked about. They are a company that runs ENTIRELY off brand name and brand recognition. Do I agree with that? No not at all. But do they make fantastic bikes that feel like none other? Yes they do and I will admit that.

Bose speakers sound great. They may be overpriced as your saying (I actually agree with that) but to sit there and blindly say just because they are bose they sound awful is a load a youknowwhat.

Edit: My father also owned the 5 speaker surround sound Bose set and they sounded ****ing epic. Clear as can be at ANY volume. He returned them because he didnt think they were worth the money. He admits though they sound incredible, just not 1200 dollars incredible.

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s_k

You might want to check out my sound rig. It's not like I don't know how to test stuff properly .
I can't tell you to hear something different than what you actually hear.
I'm glad you like your Boses. But I can't help but think they sound bad. Not even for the money, just plain bad. You could blame me for that, but you might want to try something else next time. That's your choice.

I'm off to bed now. It's 3:42am here.
Enjoy your music and good night.

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Fair enough, to each his own. And im not saying you dont know your audiophile share

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s_k

Hm, I was off to bed.

One more thing: I don't know Polk audio or Boston Acoustics.
All I know is that word goes they shouldn't be taken too seriously.
I don't know if this is true. There's a lot of Tannoy haters too and I love my SRM10B's.
Bose though is commonly known around audiophiles to be utterly bad. And I have to agree. The 901's and 802's are quite allright, but really overpriced.
If you didn't live thousands of miles away I'd love to invite you to have a listen to my speakers here.
It's not that I don't respect your choice, I'm just very sure about this one and I want everyone to get the most out of their music. Cause that's what we're here for.

Doesn't change the fact that quite some people here are listening to music via their laptop or PC speakers . It's sad.

Well, off to bed now. Goodnight!

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i think all what lone misfit has is bose that is why he's so biased. honestly we can afford that bose but we are musicians so we hear the difference ...