First Drum Set

idealJOSEPH · 06-29-2010, 06:30 AM

So I am new to drumming, this is my first set. What drums and/or cymbals should I have? I have the basic 5 piece set (I don't know what to call each one <_<). What would you recommend I buy? Where should I start? Anyone have any songs I could learn with a 5 piece set? Thanks!

immetoday · 06-29-2010, 10:00 AM

Cymbals depend on the style you want to play and personal preference, if u like the sound, get it. start with a ride, crash and hi-hat which ever one u like better and for drum heads get ambassador coated. You can play pretty much any song on the classic five piece.

Alfred · 06-29-2010, 11:31 AM

I have a beginner's classic five piece set with only a hi-hat and a crash and I get by on these. However, I would really like to get a ride as well.

idealJOSEPH · 06-29-2010, 04:14 PM

Oh ok, cool. I was told to pick up a double bass drum pedal and a china cymbal. Do you guys/gals think I should?

Alfred · 06-29-2010, 05:27 PM

Double bass pedals are cool but unnecessary, unless you play a lot of heavy metal or prefer using your other foot for the bass drum.

Freebase Dali · 06-29-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

Double bass pedals are cool but unnecessary, unless you play a lot of heavy metal or prefer using your other foot for the bass drum.

You can make really intricate tom rolls with a double kick. Or accent kick fills. It's not just all about dududududududududududududududud.

But if he's just starting out, I'd say he get a single kick anyway so he's not tempted to lose focus. Learn the basics and all.

AleG · 06-29-2010, 08:38 PM

One can easily do without double bass, even in metal. Here's an example:

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[George] Kollias is notable for using only one kick pedal during blast beats, rather than the double-kicks employed by most drummers. In the song 'Sacrifice Unto Sebek' on the album Annihilation of the Wicked his blast beat speed clocks in at 265 bpm; on Nile's album Ithyphallic, the song 'Papyrus Containing the Spell to Preserve its Possessor Against Attacks From He Who is In the Water' was clocked at 271 bpm according to album producer Neil Kernon. Also, on George's instructional DVD, there is a segment where he plays semiquavers at 280 beats per minute. The blast beat on the first riff of Nile's 'Kafir!' from latest album, Those Whom the Gods Detest clocks at 280 bpm.

Freebase Dali · 06-29-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AleG

One can easily do without double bass, even in metal. Here's an example:

Great to know we're all able to do that at moment's notice.
Pshh.. practice is out the door now! Who needs it?
Brand new drummers, you will be just as capable as every other drummer that ever existed... don't worry about building skills or starting on a foundation... screw all that absolute non-sense... Just "think" you're doing it right.

We'll love it.. I promise.......

AleG · 06-30-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Great to know we're all able to do that at moment's notice.
Pshh.. practice is out the door now! Who needs it?
Brand new drummers, you will be just as capable as every other drummer that ever existed... don't worry about building skills or starting on a foundation... screw all that absolute non-sense... Just "think" you're doing it right.

We'll love it.. I promise.......

I just love the sarcasm.

I admittedly should've removed "easily" out of my quote. My 2 cents was just aimed at show casing that you don't need a double bass for metal...

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Originally Posted by Alfred

Double bass pedals are cool but unnecessary, unless you play a lot of heavy metal

...[meaning I'm saying it's not nesessary], so idealJOSEPH shouldn't have that on the top of his list if he plans on going the metal route.

I don't see why you were going on about practice(important factor, yes, but not what I was going on about)...

Dom · 06-30-2010, 05:25 PM

Cymbals (including hi-hat) and the snare drum are what I'd improve first. They make the most prevalent sound and are likely to be played the most so having them sound good is a good bonus. I would definately not reccomend starting by getting a china and double-bass pedal. A china cymbal isn't used very often in comparison to other things and you definately need to learn the basics of one bass pedal before you even think of moving on to two. New, more durable heads (such as ambassador coated) are also another thing you should upgrade fairly quickly, although it's fine to wait until your current heads break before replacing them. I would also suggest you learn how to tune drums straight away as tuning can make a huge difference in how the kit feels to play and how it sounds.

If you're on a low budget, upgrade the snare first and then the cymbals (either individually or as a set) and then move on to whatever you feel like needs improving the most (probably toms, as a good tom drum sounds awesome).

As for songs, well, most songs out there can either be played straight onto or be adapted for a 5-piece kit.

06-29-2010, 06:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
idealJOSEPH Groupie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 6	First Drum Set So I am new to drumming, this is my first set. What drums and/or cymbals should I have? I have the basic 5 piece set (I don't know what to call each one <_<). What would you recommend I buy? Where should I start? Anyone have any songs I could learn with a 5 piece set? Thanks!

06-29-2010, 11:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
Alfred one big soul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 5,096	I have a beginner's classic five piece set with only a hi-hat and a crash and I get by on these. However, I would really like to get a ride as well. __________________ LAST.FM / VINYL COLLECTION / RYM

06-29-2010, 05:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
Alfred one big soul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 5,096	Double bass pedals are cool but unnecessary, unless you play a lot of heavy metal or prefer using your other foot for the bass drum. __________________ LAST.FM / VINYL COLLECTION / RYM

06-30-2010, 05:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dom Music Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: UK Posts: 120	Cymbals (including hi-hat) and the snare drum are what I'd improve first. They make the most prevalent sound and are likely to be played the most so having them sound good is a good bonus. I would definately not reccomend starting by getting a china and double-bass pedal. A china cymbal isn't used very often in comparison to other things and you definately need to learn the basics of one bass pedal before you even think of moving on to two. New, more durable heads (such as ambassador coated) are also another thing you should upgrade fairly quickly, although it's fine to wait until your current heads break before replacing them. I would also suggest you learn how to tune drums straight away as tuning can make a huge difference in how the kit feels to play and how it sounds. If you're on a low budget, upgrade the snare first and then the cymbals (either individually or as a set) and then move on to whatever you feel like needs improving the most (probably toms, as a good tom drum sounds awesome). As for songs, well, most songs out there can either be played straight onto or be adapted for a 5-piece kit. __________________ Last.fm No more stories / are told today / I'm sorry / they washed away // No more stories / the world is grey / I'm tired / let's wash away.

06-29-2010, 10:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
immetoday Groupie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 34	Cymbals depend on the style you want to play and personal preference, if u like the sound, get it. start with a ride, crash and hi-hat which ever one u like better and for drum heads get ambassador coated. You can play pretty much any song on the classic five piece.

06-29-2010, 04:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
idealJOSEPH Groupie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 6	Oh ok, cool. I was told to pick up a double bass drum pedal and a china cymbal. Do you guys/gals think I should?