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Old 08-08-2009, 01:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 08-08-2009, 04:41 PM   #22 (permalink)
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especially when it's a re-hash of what asshat said better than any other post in this thread.


just re-iterate. you don't NEED to play an instrument to love music, but depending on your personality there's a good chance it will provide another perspective to appreciate the music from that you wouldn't have otherwise. how you use that perspective is ultimately up to you.


@GB - in regards to the hendrix 'shredding' vs. traditional shredders i think the main issue is intent. hendrix never wrote pieces to showcase his chops, when he took off and started shredding he was quite literally taking off - just like when Coltrane was trying to talk to god on 'Interstellar Space'. it's more of a meditative thing, your conscious mind more or less shuts off and you just go. there's no thought of what mode to play what scale in next or any of that (which is clear as day when you check out a petrucci video).

you're right that vai gets unfairly lumped into the soulless category, i'm pretty sure zappa wouldn't have bothered with him otherwise. 'sisters' is actually the last song i tried learning before going total improv (i really hope i still have my copy of 'passion and warfare', going to have to do little digging in a bit)

plus i thought the bulk of the dragonforce fanbase were kids who played way too much guitar hero 3
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Old 08-08-2009, 06:16 PM   #23 (permalink)
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good job on bringing up something completely unrelated to this topic. I don't post to be pretty with everyone.

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especially when it's a re-hash of what asshat said better than any other post in this thread.
no one really wants to wade through paragraphs or text - i just gave the whole topic a summary. Hence the clever usage of the term, nutshell.
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Can't handle Vai except for his work with Zappa - when he was basically an extension of Frank's brain and hands ... Not that there's anything intrinsically WRONG with Steve Vai, he just doesn't do a lot for me

Getting my head out of my ass in general definitely helped me past the "why would they play THAT??" problem that kept me from enjoying a lot of things in my early twenties ... Still don't enjoy EVERYTHING but also don't feel the need to and can usually at least summon up respect for where anyone is coming from or trying to go

Not everyone has to dig Jimi either. Me, I LOVE the bits where he loses the rhythm section and goes off. It splits my brain in two and stops me thinking entirely. Awesome. Though, yes, there are also nights when he is obviously tired, bored, and sloppy. (But I'd rather listen to Jimi play tired, bored and sloppy than most people's best night...)

hmmm .... that's probably enough said
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Nah, a lot of my fellow bandmates like other bands solely for the technical skill of the guitar or drums and its really retarded.
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Nah, a lot of my fellow bandmates like other bands solely for the technical skill of the guitar or drums and its really retarded.
How do you mean?

Because the technical skill can sometimes be important.
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How do you mean?

Because the technical skill can sometimes be important.

He means that basing your love of music solely on technical skill alone is ridiculous. In that scenario, all you're doing is loving an equation, not the sum.

If you knew a band who was the most technically skilled garbage can players in the entire world, would they be the most musical? Would they do what good music does to you?

Music is its whole, and everything included in it.
Music is not defined ONLY by how well people play it. More than technical skill goes into creating good music.
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