For the drummers

Sam-Y · 06-08-2009, 10:04 PM

I dont about all you drummers out there, but as a drummer, i always felt very limited. playing in a band, i was always the one hauling the most stuff around, putting together/taking apart my kit while the guitarists/bass player were socializing. i also felt limited in the sense where i could not play my instrument whenever or wherever i like. AND...i felt somewhat powerless, especially to the guitarists (felt inferior). i cant even explain the feeling...but I loved and still love playing the drums, it is my passion. However, the insecurity did not leave so I picked up a guitar and started jamming...WOOHOOO. next is bass...but any drummers feel this way or am i just an attention-seeking w****?

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe · 06-08-2009, 10:09 PM

^That's the price you pay for being the most important part of the band.

Sam-Y · 06-08-2009, 10:22 PM

i was taking one for the team lol. whats your primary weapon of choice?

Dr_Rez · 06-12-2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe

^That's the price you pay for being the most important part of the band.

Theres your reason. Being the best comes with a price.

Sam-Y · 06-13-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hesher

You should try playing in a limited volume environment... When I used to play with my old band in school I was constantly the loudest element and everyone had to turn up to match me. That is a pretty awesome feeling.

That said, I picked up the bass a year or two ago, trying to get some melody into my musicianship... I think it's sometimes a lot more rewarding to learn a song on bass than drums. But I do love playing drums, especially to bands like Queens of the Stone Age where you can just appreciate jamming out.

Coolest thing about drumming is that you're nearly always in demand, but it's hard to form bands because it's tough to do a lot of songwriting. I do a lot of the arrangement in my band, organizing the riffs and whatnot, and sometimes I'll contribute a riff or suggestion, but it's not quite the same.

It is very rewarding, as a drummer, to learn a song on another instrument. I still think it's a good idea for drummers to invest in another instrument. Most drummers I know play guitar for example.

It's true that we're always in demand, there aren't too many of us. I think a lot of people consider learning drums but then decide to invest in guitar or bass because of it's versatility and also because it's portable. Owning a drum set is a pain in the ass when it comes to storage, noise, tuning, and moving. So much work involved which I think is the reason there aren't too many drummers.

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Originally Posted by RezZ

Theres your reason. Being the best comes with a price.

That's true. As a drummer, you become very important since you are always in demand yet hard to find.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe · 06-08-2009, 10:30 PM

Guitar.

Rhythm guitar actually..

The second most important part.

Freebase Dali · 06-08-2009, 10:38 PM

Sam, I always have been and always will be a drummer. I've been guitarist, singer, bassist... but Drummer is the only position I capitalize on.
You don't need an angel shining a light on you.. Drummers make the backbone of the music, and believe it or not, girls dig drummers.
But none of that is really important.
Being a drummer, to me, is the most rewarding experience in a band. You are ultimately the most flexible person in the band, but the most needed. Eventually your band-mates realize it and it's really you that calls all the shots, rhythmically.

And honestly... from experience... Drummers have the best sense of song structure. So when you argue with your front-man, you're probably in the right.. because front-men don't know fucking shit.

Sam-Y · 06-09-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction

Sam, I always have been and always will be a drummer. I've been guitarist, singer, bassist... but Drummer is the only position I capitalize on.
You don't need an angel shining a light on you.. Drummers make the backbone of the music, and believe it or not, girls dig drummers.
But none of that is really important.
Being a drummer, to me, is the most rewarding experience in a band. You are ultimately the most flexible person in the band, but the most needed. Eventually your band-mates realize it and it's really you that calls all the shots, rhythmically.

And honestly... from experience... Drummers have the best sense of song structure. So when you argue with your front-man, you're probably in the right.. because front-men don't know fucking shit.

^ Thats the reason I love what I do, and you put it very nicely. At the same time however, as a drummer, I always felt the need to have the "power" to produce melodies also. I felt limited in another sense since you can only produce beats with percussion while most musicians can produce everything else. I love drumming, but I guess this had more to do with me than with drumming only.

Freebase Dali · 06-09-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam-Y

^ Thats the reason I love what I do, and you put it very nicely. At the same time however, as a drummer, I always felt the need to have the "power" to produce melodies also. I felt limited in another sense since you can only produce beats with percussion while most musicians can produce everything else. I love drumming, but I guess this had more to do with me than with drumming only.

But you have to know that drummers have the power to make music out of drums. Look at Rush. Neil Pert stole every bit of that spot-light and he deserved it. Danney Carey of Tool, etc.
I'm not saying the rest of the band is obsolete, I'm just saying that drummers have the opportunity to make their instrument more than some cylindrical objects that produce various thuds.
If you can create a vibe with your drumming, then you're accomplishing more than a guitarist creating a vibe with notes.
Look at it that way.
We drummers are often underrated...
But most of us aren't really tapping into our potential half the time.

It's more than a rhythm section, man.

Sam-Y · 06-10-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction

But you have to know that drummers have the power to make music out of drums. Look at Rush. Neil Pert stole every bit of that spot-light and he deserved it. Danney Carey of Tool, etc.
I'm not saying the rest of the band is obsolete, I'm just saying that drummers have the opportunity to make their instrument more than some cylindrical objects that produce various thuds.
If you can create a vibe with your drumming, then you're accomplishing more than a guitarist creating a vibe with notes.
Look at it that way.
We drummers are often underrated...
But most of us aren't really tapping into our potential half the time.

It's more than a rhythm section, man.

You have a good point. In a sense, drummers can do more if they produce that "vibe" you're talking about (they makes beats, and in a sense melodies). We are definitely underrated by those who know nothing about producing music, only listening to it. They think we just bang around because it looks simple to the untrained eye. Anybody who plays music better show some love lol. Man I miss my beauty, I don't have a kit no more

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06-08-2009, 10:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sam-Y Groupie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 43	For the drummers I dont about all you drummers out there, but as a drummer, i always felt very limited. playing in a band, i was always the one hauling the most stuff around, putting together/taking apart my kit while the guitarists/bass player were socializing. i also felt limited in the sense where i could not play my instrument whenever or wherever i like. AND...i felt somewhat powerless, especially to the guitarists (felt inferior). i cant even explain the feeling...but I loved and still love playing the drums, it is my passion. However, the insecurity did not leave so I picked up a guitar and started jamming...WOOHOOO. next is bass...but any drummers feel this way or am i just an attention-seeking w****?

06-08-2009, 10:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	Sam, I always have been and always will be a drummer. I've been guitarist, singer, bassist... but Drummer is the only position I capitalize on. You don't need an angel shining a light on you.. Drummers make the backbone of the music, and believe it or not, girls dig drummers. But none of that is really important. Being a drummer, to me, is the most rewarding experience in a band. You are ultimately the most flexible person in the band, but the most needed. Eventually your band-mates realize it and it's really you that calls all the shots, rhythmically. And honestly... from experience... Drummers have the best sense of song structure. So when you argue with your front-man, you're probably in the right.. because front-men don't know fucking shit. __________________

06-08-2009, 10:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sam-Y Groupie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 43	i was taking one for the team lol. whats your primary weapon of choice?