Self Taught??

HuskyInDenial · 07-28-2009, 07:19 PM

Here's the thing.

Different methods work for different people, and neither one makes you more badass than the other.

Self-taught people who are actually decent at what they do either have musical intuition, or they're diligent and work hard to learn what they want to know.
The downside is that it's a lot of homework on your part, and unless you learn to read music proficiently, you will have a hard time communicating your musical thoughts to others.

People who learn music have the advantage of guidance and motivation from an outside source, as well as a wealth of information from experts and books. They can also read music better.
The downside, though, is that many people who are taught an instrument have a hard time writing music. They can play other people's, but they can't make their own.

All this I speak from experience. I'm a happy blend of both worlds. Teaching myself my instruments allowed me to bypass the extensive learning process, and to explore the instrument freely. Learning after that, though, opened up a world of possibilities, as i could now "speak music" with the people with whom I played.
I am of the intuitive variety. My old guitarist, Ping, taught himself with books and magazines, and practiced everyday. So while I played strange chords, and he could run slick riffs over them.

There's my two cents.

Freebase Dali · 07-28-2009, 08:22 PM

I kind of agree, Husky.
I mean.. I would have liked to learn scales because it would help on my solos (if I wanted to do them regularly), but I feel as though playing music through intuition only leaves me with a lot of room to explore and be creative.
I also feel a lot more accomplished when I learn based on self discovery and am doing things not so much "better" than a classically trained musician, but "different" in an individual sense.
I feel like the things I come up with are more based on myself than a formula.

sambo · 07-30-2009, 12:44 AM

I used to have a teacher but then I decided to do the self taught thing I find it just the same only hard thing is concentrating when I am trying to learn something new.

Shivs · 07-30-2009, 01:30 AM

I was wondering, if I wanted to create songs to go along with my lyrics, would it be better to just go with a teacher or teach myself over a period of time?

NumberNineDream · 08-02-2009, 08:29 PM

i''m trying to play the guitar, it's been 3 days now. i'm trying to teach myself, but it's still too soon to know if it's working or not.

the problem with me getting a teacher is, that every time i try to get a teacher for anything, i'm not able to commit to the appointments, for the simple reason that anything i'm trying to learn becomes a sort of a chore that i feel obliged to rebel against.

but that's just me ... i sorta have a psychological problem or something.
but for now, the plan is to get with friends for some help, as the majority plays the guitar.

Astronomer · 08-02-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shivs

I was wondering, if I wanted to create songs to go along with my lyrics, would it be better to just go with a teacher or teach myself over a period of time?

It all comes down to what you think your ability is. Do you think you NEED a teacher or do you think you can teach yourself on your own? When I first started writing songs, I'd start with a simple set of chord progressions. I'd chose a series or chords that I like the sound of when played in a certain sequence/ pattern. I'd add my lyrics to these patterns, and then eventually stray from the direct chords and mix up the notes a little.

If you can teach yourself chords in my opinion you'll pretty much be set.

Schredds · 08-02-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberNineDream

i''m trying to play the guitar, it's been 3 days now. i'm trying to teach myself, but it's still too soon to know if it's working or not.

the problem with me getting a teacher is, that every time i try to get a teacher for anything, i'm not able to commit to the appointments, for the simple reason that anything i'm trying to learn becomes a sort of a chore that i feel obliged to rebel against.

but that's just me ... i sorta have a psychological problem or something.
but for now, the plan is to get with friends for some help, as the majority plays the guitar.

Use guitar tabs to teach yourself bro, a very easy way to learn, you need to start somewhere. I used tabs when I first started playing and IMO its a good and easy way to learn, eventually you wont need them and everything should come natually, depending on how well you learn things and retain them. Practice practice practice my friend

Rider of the Storm · 08-09-2009, 05:56 PM

I've been playing for almost two years. taught myself and with a little help from my friends and father

J.S.3otR · 08-18-2009, 02:52 PM

i self-taught myself how to play bass, and im not going to say that i suck, but im not an amazing player either.
but i wish i took lessons, mainly because A. i can barely read sheet music and B. it's always possible to learn from another person, no matter what their skill level is.

Birrra · 08-19-2009, 06:15 AM

Hey everybody.
I would like to start playing the accoustic guitar. I don't have any time or money for a teacher so I'd like to use the self-teaching method.
I already play the piano with a teacher. I've been doing it for 6 years, so I do have some experience with music.
What methods would you recommend me ?

07-28-2009, 07:19 PM	#111 (permalink)
HuskyInDenial Groupie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis Posts: 10	Here's the thing. Different methods work for different people, and neither one makes you more badass than the other. Self-taught people who are actually decent at what they do either have musical intuition, or they're diligent and work hard to learn what they want to know. The downside is that it's a lot of homework on your part, and unless you learn to read music proficiently, you will have a hard time communicating your musical thoughts to others. People who learn music have the advantage of guidance and motivation from an outside source, as well as a wealth of information from experts and books. They can also read music better. The downside, though, is that many people who are taught an instrument have a hard time writing music. They can play other people's, but they can't make their own. All this I speak from experience. I'm a happy blend of both worlds. Teaching myself my instruments allowed me to bypass the extensive learning process, and to explore the instrument freely. Learning after that, though, opened up a world of possibilities, as i could now "speak music" with the people with whom I played. I am of the intuitive variety. My old guitarist, Ping, taught himself with books and magazines, and practiced everyday. So while I played strange chords, and he could run slick riffs over them. There's my two cents. __________________ [and the little ones chewed on the bones]

07-28-2009, 08:22 PM	#112 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	I kind of agree, Husky. I mean.. I would have liked to learn scales because it would help on my solos (if I wanted to do them regularly), but I feel as though playing music through intuition only leaves me with a lot of room to explore and be creative. I also feel a lot more accomplished when I learn based on self discovery and am doing things not so much "better" than a classically trained musician, but "different" in an individual sense. I feel like the things I come up with are more based on myself than a formula. __________________

08-02-2009, 08:29 PM	#115 (permalink)
NumberNineDream Blue Bleezin' Blind Drunk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The land of the largest wine glass (aka Lebanon) Posts: 2,200	i''m trying to play the guitar, it's been 3 days now. i'm trying to teach myself, but it's still too soon to know if it's working or not. the problem with me getting a teacher is, that every time i try to get a teacher for anything, i'm not able to commit to the appointments, for the simple reason that anything i'm trying to learn becomes a sort of a chore that i feel obliged to rebel against. but that's just me ... i sorta have a psychological problem or something. but for now, the plan is to get with friends for some help, as the majority plays the guitar. __________________ Do cats eat bats? Do cats eat bats?Do cats eat bats? Do cats eat bats? Do cats eat bats? Do cats eat bats? Do cats eat bats?Do cats eat bats? Do cats eat bats?Do bats eat cats? Do bats eat cats? Do bats eat cats? Do bats eat cats? Do bats eat cats?Do bats eat cats?Do bats eat cats?Do bats eat cats? Do bats eat cats? Do bats eat cats? Do bats eat cats?Do bats eat cats?Do bats eat cats? Do bats eat cats? Do bats eat cats? Welcome to the Black Lodge

08-09-2009, 05:56 PM	#118 (permalink)
Rider of the Storm Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 29	I've been playing for almost two years. taught myself and with a little help from my friends and father __________________ [SIGPIC]http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/337955/Mastodon.jpg[/SIGPIC]

08-18-2009, 02:52 PM	#119 (permalink)
J.S.3otR Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 21	i self-taught myself how to play bass, and im not going to say that i suck, but im not an amazing player either. but i wish i took lessons, mainly because A. i can barely read sheet music and B. it's always possible to learn from another person, no matter what their skill level is. __________________ http://myspace.com/3ontheruf -My band. Im the bassist/singer. Our name sucks.

07-30-2009, 12:44 AM	#113 (permalink)
sambo Groupie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 10	I used to have a teacher but then I decided to do the self taught thing I find it just the same only hard thing is concentrating when I am trying to learn something new.

07-30-2009, 01:30 AM	#114 (permalink)
Shivs Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 62	I was wondering, if I wanted to create songs to go along with my lyrics, would it be better to just go with a teacher or teach myself over a period of time?

08-19-2009, 06:15 AM	#120 (permalink)
Birrra Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1	Hey everybody. I would like to start playing the accoustic guitar. I don't have any time or money for a teacher so I'd like to use the self-teaching method. I already play the piano with a teacher. I've been doing it for 6 years, so I do have some experience with music. What methods would you recommend me ?