Looking for electric guitar advice (alternative, blues, dance, rock)

KelticKalamity · 03-23-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pourmeanother

Thanks for the information. I do not care whether or not my guitar is name brand, so it's good to know about Gibson. I also don't want to drop $1000 for a fukin' beater. I may steer clear if there are good alternatives. I've heard a lot of praise for the Les Paul, though; it seems like there is a big split, like a love it or hate it type of feeling. Somebody also just threw out Paul Reed Smith guitars, and looking at their site I love the models I see- very clean... but again, don't know the technical information.

Look forward to hearing from Senor Dave, and any other insight you have to offer.

He just got one bad one so he posted against Gibson due to bitterness

Most Gibsons are very nice and well-made. My band's guitarist has one as well as a distant relative.

However, I recommend testing out an Epiphone Les Paul before you spend a ton of money.

You can get one for around 400-500 dollars and then spend a little extra for some humbuckers or whatever pickups you want.

That's my two cents

GuitarBizarre · 03-23-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KelticKalamity

He just got one bad one so he posted against Gibson due to bitterness

Most Gibsons are very nice and well-made. My band's guitarist has one as well as a distant relative.

However, I recommend testing out an Epiphone Les Paul before you spend a ton of money.

You can get one for around 400-500 dollars and then spend a little extra for some humbuckers or whatever pickups you want.

That's my two cents

How very presumptuous of you, who has 2 posts, and joined this month. I assume you know everything about me now, based on one negative comment towards Gibson?

However, you're wrong. I've never owned a Gibson. Know why? Because I've played enough of them to determine that their quality control is WAY below the Pricing. That includes my uncles, a friend who owned 2, and over a decade of hanging around in guitar shops trying whatever took my fancy.

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KelticKalamity · 03-23-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

How very presumptuous of you, who has 2 posts, and joined this month. I assume you know everything about me now, based on one negative comment towards Gibson?

However, you're wrong. I've never owned a Gibson. Know why? Because I've played enough of them to determine that their quality control is WAY below the Pricing. That includes my uncles, a friend who owned 2, and over a decade of hanging around in guitar shops trying whatever took my fancy.

Oh great, another uppity forum boy who judges people based on post count.

Don't condescend to me just because this is my first time on THIS particular music forum.

Yes, they're a bit overpriced, but my point still remains valid. If they weren't well-made, they wouldn't have any business, would they?

GuitarBizarre · 03-23-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KelticKalamity

Oh great, another uppity forum boy who judges people based on post count.

Don't condescend to me just because this is my first time on THIS particular music forum.

Yes, they're a bit overpriced, but my point still remains valid. If they weren't well-made, they wouldn't have any business, would they?

No, I'm judging you based on the fact you've been here a very short length of time, and haven't engaged in the community long enough to have any clue who I am or why I think what I think. Despite this you still felt yourself more than well enough informed to make assumptions on why I hold the opinion I just stated.

As for 'a bit overpriced', I mentioned I've played more than a few Gibsons. The Les Paul Studios my friend owned (Price near to a thousand pounds on GAK) were absolutely destroyed on all levels by not only my S2170FW (£799) but also in terms of playability and features, were beaten out by an RGT42DXFM (£439) another friend had recently purchased. It was also handily beaten by the Epiphone Zakk Wylde Signature a friend named Tim was very fond of playing at the time. (£599)

Thats not 'a little overpriced', thats just price gouging. The ONLY reason they can get away with it is because they're Gibson, and they have a reputation so HUGELY undeserved, that even non-guitarists are aware of them as a company, and as such they sell a huge amount of guitars to people who will either never play, or will never assume anything better is out there, and so will be happy with the medicre performance of their Gibsons, because they never see any need to upgrade to anything except another Gibson model.

And lets not even BEGIN to consider their more 'upmarket' guitars, like the GOTM series or the multitude of £4000+ models whose differences are largely cosmetic over the lower end models.

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mr dave · 03-23-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KelticKalamity

Yes, they're a bit overpriced, but my point still remains valid. If they weren't well-made, they wouldn't have any business, would they?

actually if a new brand came out and started trying to sell electric guitars at gibson's prices with their current quality control they'd be laughed off the walls. not just by shredders either (i can't comment on their acoustics). gibson is surviving by name at the moment and i won't be surprised to see them ending up like fender after saturating the market with too much product and having to drop the prices on their name line.

the last time i checked out entry level gibsons they were nasty looking. if they can't get something as basic as the paint job right then i'm not confident in their ability to get anything more complicated right. doesn't change the fact that a '74 les paul is still BY FAR the most amazing guitar i've ever tried.

like you said, epiphones are just as nice and with an upgrade can sound just as good as a classic. except you can take home two or three for the price of a gibson.

either way, love them, hate them, play them, ignore them, it makes no real difference, a musician's sound has always and will always come from their heart.

GuitarBizarre · 03-23-2009, 07:14 PM

And what Dave said.

KelticKalamity · 03-23-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KelticKalamity

I recommend testing out an Epiphone Les Paul before you spend a ton of money.

You can get one for around 400-500 dollars and then spend a little extra for some humbuckers or whatever pickups you want.

Next time, focus on the actual argument as opposed to protecting your ego

GuitarBizarre · 03-23-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KelticKalamity

He just got one bad one so he posted against Gibson due to bitterness

Most Gibsons are very nice and well-made. My band's guitarist has one as well as a distant relative.

However, I recommend testing out an Epiphone Les Paul before you spend a ton of money.

You can get one for around 400-500 dollars and then spend a little extra for some humbuckers or whatever pickups you want.

That's my two cents

Parts of post in bold are directly contradicting my earlier advice, based on your assumptions, which as i pointed out, were wrong.

I was therefore replying to THAT part of your post, which directly contradicted my own and therefore formed the second of the 2 different viewpoints necessary to have an 'argument'.

The second half addressed nothing of what I had said earlier, as it was a different company, therefore an argument on that point would have been impossible.

Since we have now established that the only argument possible, is in fact NOT the one you are claiming we have just had, I'm forced to conclude you're a ****ing idiot who just doesn't want to admit another opinion may well have some basis in fact despite its opposition to your OWN viewpoint.

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KelticKalamity · 03-23-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

Parts of post in bold are directly contradicting my earlier advice, based on your assumptions, which as i pointed out, were wrong.

I was therefore replying to THAT part of your post, which directly contradicted my own and therefore formed the second of the 2 different viewpoints necessary to have an 'argument'.

The second half addressed nothing of what I had said earlier, as it was a different company, therefore an argument on that point would have been impossible.

Since we have now established that the only argument possible, is in fact NOT the one you are claiming we have just had, I'm forced to conclude you're a ****ing idiot who just doesn't want to admit another opinion may well have some basis in fact despite its opposition to your OWN viewpoint.

lol ur funny

this thread bores me now

GuitarBizarre · 03-23-2009, 10:55 PM

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