pedal/amp problem (bass, amps, effects, volume, solo)

kspfan · 10-07-2008, 02:56 PM

I just bought an AC30 Custom Classic head and a 2X12 cab. I also use a big muff pedal for solo's or leads etc. When I use the big muff the amp completely kills the tone of the pedal. Now I have played with it and it seems to do it only at high volumes but thats what it has to be at to play with my band. I have had the tone (amp overdrive) all the way down and it makes almost no difference.The muff is kinda essential to the songs I play. Any ideas?

mr dave · 10-07-2008, 03:40 PM

that's really weird.

so basically, the louder you turn up the amp the less effect your pedal has on your tone right? not really sure what would cause that, weak batteries perhaps. might need to run your pedal into a preamp prior to the actual amp in order to maintain signal strength.

kspfan · 10-07-2008, 04:35 PM

ok ill give that a try! thanks.

Dr_Rez · 10-09-2008, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kspfan

I just bought an AC30 Custom Classic head and a 2X12 cab. I also use a big muff pedal for solo's or leads etc. When I use the big muff the amp completely kills the tone of the pedal. Now I have played with it and it seems to do it only at high volumes but thats what it has to be at to play with my band. I have had the tone (amp overdrive) all the way down and it makes almost no difference.The muff is kinda essential to the songs I play. Any ideas?

Sell it and buy a preamp.

TheCaster · 10-10-2008, 08:26 AM

do you run the pedals through your guitar or do you have an in and out for effects on your amp. i prefer to run effects through the amp itself but i have a friend who prefers to run them through right through the guitar plug in in the front. Although the differences in tone are not as severe, running the effects through the amp itself usually makes the pedals work better.

.... i basically just restated what mr dave said although not as well... i think?

mr dave · 10-10-2008, 09:07 AM

not quite the same as a preamp. i always heard that the effect loop on amps was for rack mounted units that used a different level of power than regular stomp boxes. wouldn't hurt to try though (if it's even possible with the AC30)

andydresser · 10-11-2008, 06:11 PM

If its not batteries, than its probably just an unavoidable issue between the pedal and the amp. I used to use both a big muff and an electro-harmonix octa-fuzz... The big muff worked a lot better with my bass setup, but I didn't like it with my guitar rig either. However, my octafuzz sounded fantastic with my guitar setup but sounded terrible when used for bass.

You should try pedals with your setup before committing to them..

10-07-2008, 02:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
kspfan Groupie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 9	pedal/amp problem I just bought an AC30 Custom Classic head and a 2X12 cab. I also use a big muff pedal for solo's or leads etc. When I use the big muff the amp completely kills the tone of the pedal. Now I have played with it and it seems to do it only at high volumes but thats what it has to be at to play with my band. I have had the tone (amp overdrive) all the way down and it makes almost no difference.The muff is kinda essential to the songs I play. Any ideas?

10-10-2008, 08:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
TheCaster Music Rapist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Somewhere in the U.S Posts: 400	do you run the pedals through your guitar or do you have an in and out for effects on your amp. i prefer to run effects through the amp itself but i have a friend who prefers to run them through right through the guitar plug in in the front. Although the differences in tone are not as severe, running the effects through the amp itself usually makes the pedals work better. .... i basically just restated what mr dave said although not as well... i think? __________________ A soul in tension thats learning to fly Condition grounded but determined to try Cant keep my eyes from the circling skies Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit

10-11-2008, 06:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
andydresser Groupie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: boston Posts: 8	If its not batteries, than its probably just an unavoidable issue between the pedal and the amp. I used to use both a big muff and an electro-harmonix octa-fuzz... The big muff worked a lot better with my bass setup, but I didn't like it with my guitar rig either. However, my octafuzz sounded fantastic with my guitar setup but sounded terrible when used for bass. You should try pedals with your setup before committing to them.. __________________ Andy Dresser

10-07-2008, 04:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
kspfan Groupie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 9	ok ill give that a try! thanks.