04-02-2008, 02:38 PM
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D-D-D-D-D-DROP THE BASS!
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I've just had a conversation with a friend that enlightened me to a few things I didn't actually know also, so heres the log for you:
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Rob says:
gibson are ****s tbh
Rob says:
and tbh
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it's not even this stuff that pisses me off
Rob says:
I'd expect a business to get a bit screwy occasionally
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but the thing that annoys me
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is that gibson guitars are designed so ****ing badly
GuitarBizarre says:
hell man
GuitarBizarre says:
i know
Rob says:
i mean
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I@m not even getting to the quality control level
Rob says:
before then
Rob says:
the design is just inherently flawed
GuitarBizarre says:
The SG neckdives, the Les Paul ists in a really really ****ed up position, neither guitar has any comfort contours, the headstocks are heavy, the tuning machines are made of plastic all the way up the range.
Rob says:
it's even worse than that
Rob says:
have you ever seen the schematics?
GuitarBizarre says:
never paid much attention
Rob says:
o.k
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basically
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in nearly all gibson guitars
Rob says:
the neck humbucker rout goes straight into the neck joint
Rob says:
severely weakening
GuitarBizarre says:
oh right
Rob says:
the neck joint
GuitarBizarre says:
Yeah
Rob says:
so eventually
GuitarBizarre says:
it makes horrible holes very easy to make too
GuitarBizarre says:
hold on
Rob says:
this is most noticeable in the SG
Rob says:
in which case
GuitarBizarre says:
You mean this dont you
GuitarBizarre says:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o.../blemish04.jpg
Rob says:
there's actually only a piece of wood as thick as the average finger holding the ****ing neck onto the body
GuitarBizarre says:
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...x/IMG_0624.jpg
GuitarBizarre says:
those are explorers btw, which suffer the same problem
Rob says:
all gibsons do
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the other thing is the headstock angle
Rob says:
most are 13 degrees
GuitarBizarre says:
its way too deep
Rob says:
I think ibanez are about 10
GuitarBizarre says:
WAY too deep
Rob says:
gibson used 15 for a while
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but they just snapped off so easily
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I mean
GuitarBizarre says:
Its ****ing terrible
Rob says:
13 snaps very easily to start with
GuitarBizarre says:
all it does is wear the nut and make the string stick
Rob says:
well
Rob says:
not quite
Rob says:
angled headstocks make sense
GuitarBizarre says:
not the angled
GuitarBizarre says:
the excessive nagle
Rob says:
but the only person to really get them sorted is Ibanez tbh
GuitarBizarre says:
string trees place uneven stress
Rob says:
that's why I've got ibanezs tbh, because everything is designed so ****ing well
GuitarBizarre says:
but having the angle too high just makes your tuning an ightmare. not to mention the fact gibson still haven't got a clue of the benefits of a straight string pull
Rob says:
yeah
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the other thing
Rob says:
my mates got a custom shop les paul
Rob says:
it's ****e
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it's got binding on BOTH EDGES
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so it digs right into your chest
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not nice
GuitarBizarre says:
the les paul shape just isnt ergonomic
GuitarBizarre says:
period
Rob says:
nitrocellulose laquer is ****ing horrible
Rob says:
agian, this is where ibanez excel, they've got some strange laquer that doesn't stick at all
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