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FireInCairo 09-10-2008 03:39 AM

if you are looking for actives
seek out some mastertones
a now defunct australian brand
i hate emg btw
these are the most amazing expressive pickups i have ever used or heard!

Grunge_Junkie 09-10-2008 11:52 AM

Fenders for Guitars and Gibson for basses

GuitarBizarre 09-10-2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 516286)
i have to make a quick comment on the EMG pickups. they might not be the 'be all end all' as some people claim but they DO provide a noticeably stronger signal when running through lots of effects as compared to regular passive pickups.

it wouldn't be something people running a multi effects unit would notice nearly as much and it still depends on the overall tone you're looking for but they're hardly bad pickups.

Actually the output levels of most active pickups aren't that high... its just that they're 'FULL ON' nearly all the time, because of their more compressed response to picking dynamics. A high output passive pickup will actually be capable of more voltage than most passives, it just won't produce that voltage the vast majority of the time.

Now the conjecture starts...my theory on why this is (and trust me, it is, I have guitars with both and have verified it on more than one occasion, and Dimarzio's website says a very similar thing on some pup descriptions) is because most players with high outut pups are either a light enough touch that they like the extra response from digging in hard, or they're playing loud all the time through MASSIVE amounts of distortion. Distortion always compresses a signal, so they're getting a compressed sound anyway. In both cases the true output of the pickup is somewhat masked, for different reasons.

(Don't believe me about compression with distortion? Record a clean guitar then throw a boat load of distortion onto it and play the same thing. Look at the waveforms. The clean will have lots of peaks and valleys, the distorted will be pretty much 'On' or 'Off', and will actually be quieter all the way through, than the clean signals peaks are.)

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mr dave 09-10-2008 04:17 PM

i'm just going with what my ears say. i know you're right about loads of distortion compressing a sound. but when i run my esp with emgs through my setup it sounds louder than when i run my fender through the same line.

there's a significant difference in tone but that's expected. i just really didn't expect a noticeable amount of difference in the actual loudness.

GuitarBizarre 09-10-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 516731)
i'm just going with what my ears say. i know you're right about loads of distortion compressing a sound. but when i run my esp with emgs through my setup it sounds louder than when i run my fender through the same line.

there's a significant difference in tone but that's expected. i just really didn't expect a noticeable amount of difference in the actual loudness.

Well single coils are generally much lower output anyway...compared to say....an evo, or a D-Sonic, you'll find that what I say holds true. The output of those pickups is roughly 3 times that of an average fender style single.

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mr dave 09-10-2008 05:04 PM

fair enough. i'll keep that info in mind whenever / if ever i get around to upgrading my strat hehehe

Fishbowl Soul 11-27-2008 08:56 PM

Gibson... I'm such a conformist

Close_Smile 12-03-2008 12:15 PM

JACKSON!!!!!!!!

And Gibson, but I don't find Gibson guitars to be heavy, and I hate the SG, so I have my Jackson Randy Rhoads.

gunnels 12-06-2008 08:24 PM

Ibanez :thumb:

Iceman...aaaah.

randomhero 12-09-2008 09:27 PM

I am quite fond of PRS guitars, they are a bit out of my price range atm tho =/.


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