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judas_priest 12-25-2005 03:59 PM

help with guitar
 
I've only been playing guitar for a couple of months so I'm not very good. I want to learn a complete song in the classic rock/metal genre and am having trouble trying to learn solos, as they're so fast and never seem to sound right.

I'm looking for something relatively easy to play, and I would really appreciate people's opinions on what's the easiest and best song for a beginner to start with. :wave:

sleepy jack 12-25-2005 04:01 PM

If the solos are fast dont try and play them at THAT speed.
Play them very slow and accurate and gradually speed up.
I can't think of many rock/metal riffs that are easy its not my area of expertise.
Crazy Train/Iron Man/Smoke On The Water/Dead Leaves and The Dirty Ground?
I suggest starting with the ramones,nirvana and such first, even if you don't like it it's simple and good to start with it and simple enough.

EDIT: didnt see the poll i can play enter sandman its easy enough.

judas_priest 12-25-2005 04:04 PM

lol- yeah that would work.
When you're learing a solo at first does it sound kind of plinky plonky and ****, cos that happens to me

judas_priest 12-25-2005 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexisonfire
If the solos are fast dont try and play them at THAT speed.
Play them very slow and accurate and gradually speed up.
I can't think of many rock/metal riffs that are easy its not my area of expertise.
Crazy Train/Iron Man/Smoke On The Water/Dead Leaves and The Dirty Ground?
I suggest starting with the ramones,nirvana and such first, even if you don't like it it's simple and good to start with it and simple enough.

EDIT: didnt see the poll i can play enter sandman its easy enough.

Thanks for the advice. I'll try Nirvana and Enter Sandman

PrettyDemented 01-03-2006 01:14 PM

Definately play it at a slower pace and work your way faster. That's how I learn solos and fast paced songs.

I also agree with Alixisonfire

Fenixpunk 01-03-2006 01:28 PM

my first song i learned was Nobodys Fool - Cinderella...ahhh yeah.

PrettyDemented 01-03-2006 01:31 PM

My first song was....House of the Rising Sun...interesting song.

Laces Out Dan! 01-03-2006 10:51 PM

Heartbreaker - led zeppelin
what is and what should never be - Led Zeppelin

illusion 01-03-2006 10:54 PM

I say you should start off with Enter the Sandman, great song

Wild7Dustr 01-03-2006 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by judas_priest
I've only been playing guitar for a couple of months so I'm not very good. I want to learn a complete song in the classic rock/metal genre and am having trouble trying to learn solos, as they're so fast and never seem to sound right.

I'm looking for something relatively easy to play, and I would really appreciate people's opinions on what's the easiest and best song for a beginner to start with. :wave:

Well, I just put "Enter Sandman" and the funny thing was that everyone else voted for that too!!!:D Start slow with the solos and focus on mainly being a rhythm guitarist for now!!!If ya can't play basic riffs, then you won't be playing a good solo any time soon, ya know?:bonkhead: Learn the scales and follow/practice all of the scales so that you can learn them by memory.Start basic, then find your own original sound, moving all over the fretboard later!!!Try to make it creative when you get better and then you can start runnin' all over the fretboard, ya know?

(Other) Songs that I think were/are simple include:

1."Iron Man"-Black Sabbath.
2."Crazy Train"-Ozzy Osbourne.
3."Back In Black"-AC/DC.
4."Sweet Home Alabama"-Lynyrd Skynyrd.
5."Come As You Are"-Nirvana.
6."Sunshine Of Your Love"-Cream.
7."Hells Bells"-AC/DC.
8."Smells Like Teen Spirit"-Nirvana.

That's a good place to start off at."Smells Like Teen Spirit" and "Enter Sandman" are pretty much the riffs that every experienced guitar player learns/plays early on.Have a great time jammin' and good luck!!!:beer:

PrettyDemented 01-04-2006 12:42 PM

The riff in Iron Man is easy and...I think it's fun to play.

Wild7Dustr 01-07-2006 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyDemented
The riff in Iron Man is easy and...I think it's fun to play.

Oh, it's damn easy!!!God, I've jammed to that tune so much, but it's still fun every once in awhile!!!:)

half_baked87 01-07-2006 06:38 PM

learn the blues scale in A then start with some ac/dc, easy as pie.

Wild7Dustr 01-12-2006 12:31 AM

Just remember to have fun and stay focused!!!Tell us how you improve over time, talk to ya later!!!:)

judas_priest 01-14-2006 03:36 PM

Thanks for all the help everyone!:p:

^ Yeah cool, thanks for the advice, I'll let you know how I get on!:wave:

Vai Is God 01-18-2006 03:41 PM

My opinion is that you should, at this time, do alternate-picking excercises. Because, unless you have a teacher, in which case you should do what he/she says, chances are you're only doing downstrokes. This means, that when you pick, you should alternate between picking down, pushing the pick to the floor, and then going up, pulling the pick torwards your body. Then when that's comfortable to do, try alternating between strings, then speeding up. After that's down, try to work on your left hand dexterity. So, you should try picking in the following combination on the high E string (Thinnest), B, G, all the way down to the low E string (Thickest).

1-2-3-4-3-2-1

Then, try it with this.

1-4-2-3

Remember to alternate pick all of this. Trust me, I know it's boring, but you'll get much better, much faster.

judas_priest 01-21-2006 04:07 PM

^ Thanks. :yeah: I'll practice that to improve my speed!

Wild7Dustr 02-09-2006 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by judas_priest
^ Thanks. :yeah: I'll practice that to improve my speed!

Hey, how ya been doin', judas?Ya know, I'm waiting for you to send me an audition tape of you playing the leads of "Hangar 18" and "Holy Wars..." by Megadeth!!!:yeah:

Hell, who knows...keep on jamming and maybe I'll bring you up on stage with me and...ahem...Dave Mustaine!!!:bowdown: :beer:

dojo 02-09-2006 10:24 AM

For me it's Nothing Else Matters, the only song i was once able to play ...

SATCHMO 02-09-2006 11:44 AM

Come As You Are by Nirvana. It seems to be the one song that people who don't play guitar want to subject me to over and over again. It would be OK if it werent just the first few bars.

judas_priest 02-10-2006 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild7Dustr
Hey, how ya been doin', judas?Ya know, I'm waiting for you to send me an audition tape of you playing the leads of "Hangar 18" and "Holy Wars..." by Megadeth!!!:yeah:

Hell, who knows...keep on jamming and maybe I'll bring you up on stage with me and...ahem...Dave Mustaine!!!


Lol- yeah that would me amazing- us jamming with Mustaine!:band:

It'll take me about 50 years to get that good- :D

But I'm doing fine thanks. Pretty much got the Enter Sandman solo done- It's nothing compared to Holy Wars or Hanger 18, but it's a start at least!

Rust in Peace is such a classy album. How's it going with yourself?:yeah:

bigtim 02-11-2006 11:02 AM

Quote:

If the solos are fast dont try and play them at THAT speed.
Play them very slow and accurate and gradually speed up.
I can't think of many rock/metal riffs that are easy its not my area of expertise.
Crazy Train/Iron Man/Smoke On The Water/Dead Leaves and The Dirty Ground?
I suggest starting with the ramones,nirvana and such first, even if you don't like it it's simple and good to start with it and simple enough.

EDIT: didnt see the poll i can play enter sandman its easy enough.

yeah, that is a good suggestion

to help with that, get a Metronome/tuner thingy

i have a Meisel that i got for about 20 bucks and it is my best friend

TheBig3 02-11-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by illusion
I say you should start off with Enter the Sandman, great song

Does anyone read? Maybe I overcomplicate things but that solo has parts and it seems tough as hell. I'd option the Nothing Else Matters solo becuase I'd assume its slower, and may be pciked up quicker.

Wild7Dustr 02-11-2006 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by judas_priest
Lol- yeah that would me amazing- us jamming with Mustaine!:band:

It'll take me about 50 years to get that good- :D

But I'm doing fine thanks. Pretty much got the Enter Sandman solo done- It's nothing compared to Holy Wars or Hanger 18, but it's a start at least!

Rust in Peace is such a classy album. How's it going with yourself?:yeah:

Yeah, it's going pretty good here, judas!!!I was just thinking that it would be fun to jam with mustaine one of these days...I still consider him one of the top leaders of the pack when it comes to metal!!!Whether I was drumming along with him in Megadeth or if we begun our own band, I think it would be quite fun and very intense, ya know?

By the way, I was looking around at some of my Megadeth album booklets and I came across "Countdown To Extinction."It reminded me of your avatar, so I decided to compare them.

Incase you didn't already know, you actually do have the "Countdown To Extinction" pic of Dave as your avatar!!!In closing, yes that album and "Rust In Piece" are both greats, cheers!!!:beer:

Also-Keep on playing because I'd still love to jam 50 years from now, ya hear?

judas_priest 02-13-2006 07:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild7Dustr
Yeah, it's going pretty good here, judas!!!I was just thinking that it would be fun to jam with mustaine one of these days...I still consider him one of the top leaders of the pack when it comes to metal!!!Whether I was drumming along with him in Megadeth or if we begun our own band, I think it would be quite fun and very intense, ya know?

By the way, I was looking around at some of my Megadeth album booklets and I came across "Countdown To Extinction."It reminded me of your avatar, so I decided to compare them.

Incase you didn't already know, you actually do have the "Countdown To Extinction" pic of Dave as your avatar!!!In closing, yes that album and "Rust In Piece" are both greats, cheers!!!

Also-Keep on playing because I'd still love to jam 50 years from now, ya hear?

Yeah, Mustaine is a Metal god!
It would certainly be great fun and very intense to be in a band with him - I have more chance of being struck by lightning though. lol:D
Yeah, I have that picture of him in my Countdown To Extinction booklet too, and it is a cool album.
I will keep playing! I'm pretty much addicted now and ,yes, it would be great to jam 50 years from now! :beer:

Levithan 02-13-2006 10:54 AM

First song I ever learnt was Hey Joe, nice n easy

Wild7Dustr 02-14-2006 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by judas_priest
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Yeah, Mustaine is a Metal god!

I will keep playing! I'm pretty much addicted now and ,yes, it would be great to jam 50 years from now! :beer:

Yeah, just study as much and learn as fast as you can and I'd love to jam those or any other Megadeth songs with you some day, peace!!!:beer:

Wild7Dustr 02-16-2006 09:53 PM

In the last few days, I was thinking about another song that I used to play alot that was incredibly easy for me!!!It's another one of Metallica's songs-"For Whom The Bell Tolls."Give it a shot, man...it's very easy to play!!!;)

judas_priest 02-23-2006 04:32 PM

Cool- thanks I'll keep that in mind! I'm trying to get a band together at the moment to jam with and stuff. Only short of drummer.
You've said before that you've been jamming for 15 years- that's so cool. How young were you when you started? I wish I'd started playing earlier.
:beer:

Wild7Dustr 02-25-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by judas_priest
Cool- thanks I'll keep that in mind! I'm trying to get a band together at the moment to jam with and stuff. Only short of drummer.
You've said before that you've been jamming for 15 years- that's so cool. How young were you when you started? I wish I'd started playing earlier.
:beer:

Damn, I haven't been in this forum as much lately because I've checked out/posted in some others too!!!I just noticed that you posted now.

Just so ya know, I'd help out and jam with ya here and there if you were nearby, but seeing that you're not only a state away, but ,even more, a country, that would definitely be a long shot, ya know?

As for the talk about my "devotion" to music, I probally already said this, but I'll say again that I've been playing on and off for many years!!!:band: In other words, I haven't been playing both guitar and drums for that time period, I've went back and forth!!!

As for when I started, well, I'd just have to say that it really began right after Nirvana first came out!!!Nirvana was that big influence that got me more into playing than ever, therefore making me much more serious and devoted to not only listening to, but also playing great music!!!

And for anyone else out there, starting early doesn't necessarily mean starting at a young age!!!It is more about starting right now, now that you're more interested/serious about it than ever, instead of waiting/putting it off, ya see?

Whether you're 8 years old or 80 years old, start now or suffer the consequences of dying as a terrible musician that could've possibly been known forever as a legend!!!

For example, take a look at these guys:

1.Kurt Cobain.
2.Cliff Burton.
3.Randy Rhoads.
4.Eric Carr.
5.Stevie Ray Vaughan.
6.Dimebag Darrell.
7.Layne Staley.
8.Steve Clark.
9.John Lennon.
10.Bon Scott.

They all died as legends, not just regular people!!!So, keep on practicing if you ever want your music to "live on", ya hear?;)

Nice talkin' again, judas!!!See ya later!!!:D

judas_priest 03-08-2006 03:04 PM

Yeah, it would be cool to jam with you. Shame bout the distance. lol
I agree with your list of legends- especially Cliff and Dimebag. They were metal gods.:drummer:
I've taken your advice about For Whom The Bell Tolls. It is pretty simple and such a good song, so I'm going to learn the lead part and my friend's going to do rhythm and vocals.
Hows your music going at the moment? I wish I had more time to dedicate to learning guitar. Hope you've been listening to lots of Megadeth :D

thebassistX 04-05-2006 08:25 PM

yea i agree with the other ppl start off slowly like @ 60 which may seem extreme but its actually hard to play slow and also ill improve or sense of rhythm soo yea

one more thing....learning to tap is very helpful for solos

Winter 04-23-2006 01:19 PM

Try learning 'Living After Midnight' by Judas Priest, that song rocks and its easy the solo is kinda fast but simple.:-)


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