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Old 05-21-2017, 11:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I thought winning the World Cup was a big deal and ****. Nevermind.
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I thought winning the World Cup was a big deal and ****. Nevermind.
It is. But it's a team honour not an individual one.

He was part of a team that won three, but he was injured for their second win (that shows you how good Brazil were) and wasn't really the star player in either of the other two.
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i suppose I agree with Monkey's stance on the world cup. Giggsy has won the most PL titles (13) with Scholes at 11 and Neville next with 8. I don't think any of the three of them would be in the top 5 players to play in league.

Obviously league and national honours are different, but a team award is still a team award at the end of the day. I can't say where I would rank Pele because I don't think it makes much sense to try and place a player you've never actually seen play a game. If you base all of your opinions off of highlights and honours who knows who you could claim to be one of the greats.
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