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Old 07-15-2018, 10:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay so Croatia is going to lose.


But England still finished fourth
Croatia catching an inexperienced England team on an off day is actually the biggest moment in their entire history

France have deserved this. Been the best team and didn't need extra time in their knockouts to win. Croatia after having an easy draw fluked it through three knockouts with extra time and penalties, had hoped we would see a decent performance from them today but it's been a poor showing and the most one sided final in 20 years. Painful to watch.
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Old 07-15-2018, 01:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Croatia catching an inexperienced England team on an off day is actually the biggest moment in their entire history

France have deserved this. Been the best team and didn't need extra time in their knockouts to win. Croatia after having an easy draw fluked it through three knockouts with extra time and penalties, had hoped we would see a decent performance from them today but it's been a poor showing and the most one sided final in 20 years. Painful to watch.
So if England had gotten to the finals and won would they have deserved it after an easy draw and losing a game just to dodge a better team?
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So if England had gotten to the finals and won would they have deserved it after an easy draw and losing a game just to dodge a better team?
We did get to "the finals".

And yes because they would have won. Croatia didn't win though. And all three of their knockout games were draws as well other than the final, which they lost.
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Another month to go, Fluff....
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Old 07-15-2018, 01:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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We did get to "the finals".
The **** are you on about? They got shitcanned in the semis.

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And yes because they would have won. Croatia didn't win though. And all three of their knockout games were draws as well other than the final, which they lost.
That is stupid. They didn't get to play France cause they got beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia so you can't say what they would or wouldn't have done. Cause they got beat by Croatia. And like you said England had an easy draw and then acted like fake athletes by throwing a game for a strategic advantage. Doesn't sound like a team who deserved to win.

And didn't we have a discussion a while back where you said that the World Cup isn't about deciding the best team? It's about the team that scores the most goals, something which can be affected by the teams you play and luck? So saying that a team doesn't deserve to win is nonsensical as the competition is not structured in such a way that the best team wins anyway.
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The **** are you on about? They got shitcanned in the semis.
"The finals" = the tournament proper. You asked a question I gave you the answer to the question you asked. There are two phases - qualification and the finals. The finals are the thing we've been discussing for the past month. The final is the last match.

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That is stupid. They didn't get to play France cause they got beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia so you can't say what they would or wouldn't have done. Cause they got beat by Croatia. And like you said England had an easy draw and then acted like fake athletes by throwing a game for a strategic advantage. Doesn't sound like a team who deserved to win.

And didn't we have a discussion a while back where you said that the World Cup isn't about deciding the best team? It's about the team that scores the most goals, something which can be affected by the teams you play and luck? So saying that a team doesn't deserve to win is nonsensical as the competition is not structured in such a way that the best team wins anyway.
You asked if they had won, would they have deserved to win and I said yes, by default because they would have won the game in that scenario. Croatia did not win the final. It was a hypothetical question that you asked.

The best team does not always win in cup compeitions.

And just to be a pedant one more time we didn't get beat by Croatia as the match was technically a draw.
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I have to admit France was the best team in this cup. Croatia was a gutty club that never gave up, but today, France was too much for them. Hey, at least it wasn't 7-1 like Germany-Brazil four years ago.
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congrats to Poggers and Mbappe, well deserved. Q-Man called it.

still **** croatia, enjoy second place suckers.
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congrats to Poggers and Mbappe, well deserved.

still **** croatia, enjoy second place suckers.
Top post Q-Man second place actually flatters them as well.

2018 World Cup best of my lifetime btw.
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congrats to Poggers and Mbappe, well deserved. Q-Man called it.

still **** croatia, enjoy second place suckers.

While Belgium enjoys third
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