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Old 06-28-2018, 11:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is some rationalized bull****. You should be celebrated for being the best, not for racking up the most points in pinball.
Says who?

Wigan won the FA Cup a few years ago, Greece and Portugal won the Euros in 2004 & 2016, Chelsea won the Champions League in 2012 and none of these teams were the best in the competitions when they won them but that is quite rare and you don't really see it in league format. As I said it's knockout format.

How about we just award the trophy to the team with the best squad?
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Says who?

Wigan won the FA Cup a few years ago, Greece and Portugal won the Euros in 2004 & 2016, Chelsea won the Champions League in 2012 and none of these teams were the best in the competitions when they won them but that is quite rare and you don't really see it in league format. As I said it's knockout format.

How about we just award the trophy to the team with the best squad?
You're right. We'll just award the trophy to the squad that avoids the best teams.
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You're right. We'll just award the trophy to the squad that avoids the best teams.
That doesn't make sense. By your logic we should award it to Senegal or Poland for getting knocked out as they have avoided all the best teams by being eliminated early and having no top teams in their group.

It's not what I've argued anyway, it's awarded to the team who scores more goals than their opponent in each round. You have a better chance of doing this with a favourable draw.
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Wigan won the FA Cup a few years ago, Greece and Portugal won the Euros in 2004 & 2016, Chelsea won the Champions League in 2012 and none of these teams were the best in the competitions when they won them but that is quite rare and you don't really see it in league format. As I said it's knockout format.

How about we just award the trophy to the team with the best squad?
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That doesn't make sense. By your logic we should award it to Senegal or Poland for getting knocked out as they have avoided all the best teams by being eliminated early and having no top teams in their group.

It's not what I've argued anyway, it's awarded to the team who scores more goals than their opponent in each round. You have a better chance of doing this with a favourable draw.
You're rationalizing a flawed tournament structure. Just accept that it's bull**** that rewards teams who get lucky with their "draws".
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You're rationalizing a flawed tournament structure. Just accept that it's bull**** that rewards teams who get lucky with their "draws".
It's not flawed though.

Not sure if guys understand what a knockout tournament is.
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It's not flawed though.

Not sure if guys understand what a knockout tournament is.
Sounds like a bollocks concept tbh. Why should you be rewarded for scoring more goals against a ****e opponent when a better team is penalized for scoring less goals against a team that's still better than you?
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Sounds like a bollocks concept tbh. Why should you be rewarded for scoring more goals against a ****e opponent when a better team is penalized for scoring less goals against a team that's still better than you?
It's not flawed. It's a knockout tournament not a league. The aim is to progress to the next round. It is a different challenge to league format which requires more consistency over a long period of time.

Also you are acting like it's no marks who make it to the final which doesn't happen.
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