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Cuthbert 07-15-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard (Post 1975148)
3rd place is a very strong finish from a team that has an incredibly strong and young core

Crotia’s top players and the only reason they did so well won’t see another world cup, enjoy it while they can :wave:

in all seriousness congrats to Croatia, a very impressive run and they deserved to make it that far. Modric is undoubtly the best midfielder in the world as far as I’m concerned.

Top wumming :D

rubber soul 07-15-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard (Post 1975148)
3rd place is a very strong finish from a team that has an incredibly strong and young core

Crotia’s top players and the only reason they did so well won’t see another world cup, enjoy it while they can :wave:

in all seriousness congrats to Croatia, a very impressive run and they deserved to make it that far. Modric is undoubtly the best midfielder in the world as far as I’m concerned.


Yeah, I'm going to have to try and catch Real Madrid when they're on TV in the States.

This probably was Croatia's best shot. There were some really good teams this year. And Belgium did knock Brazil out.

And congrats on the Hawk award. I wasn't looking forward to his tiebreaker anyway :laughing:

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 11:43 AM

Harry Kane Golden Boot
Podium finish
Two knockout wins in a row
Penalty curse broken
Record win in a World Cup
The rise of our young defenders

So much to be positive about. Best moment for me was Dier's penalty actually had a tear in my eye :o: Football :cool:
Wiith England hosting in the next Euros, we should be looking to do well there.

Great tournament lots of great games and goals. Hope you all enjoyed it lads.

Akai 07-15-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975160)
Hope you all enjoyed it lads.

Best WC in my lifetime so far, next level stuff.

Chula Vista 07-15-2018 12:51 PM

France? FRANCE? Not to sound racist, but Hispanic countries all over the world have to be in utter shock.

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1975203)
France? FRANCE? Not to sound racist, but Hispanic countries all over the world have to be in utter shock.

Why :confused:

Trollheart 07-15-2018 01:06 PM

Ah well, at least grindy gets to sleep in peace tonight! :D
(As long as the Croatians aren't up drowning their sorrows into the small hours...)
:shycouch:
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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975144)
Top post Q-Man second place actually flatters them as well.

2018 World Cup best of my lifetime btw.

Agree 100%
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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975149)
Top wumming :D

Huh? :confused:
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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975160)
Harry Kane Golden Boot
Podium finish
Two knockout wins in a row
Penalty curse broken
Record win in a World Cup
The rise of our young defenders

So much to be positive about. Best moment for me was Dier's penalty actually had a tear in my eye :o: Football :cool:
Wiith England hosting in the next Euros, we should be looking to do well there.

Great tournament lots of great games and goals. Hope you all enjoyed it lads.

Superb from start to finish. Great advertisement for the sport.
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1975203)
France? FRANCE? Not to sound racist, but Hispanic countries all over the world have to be in utter shock.

Yeah, why? Argentina, Spain, Brazil all crashed out. Why shouldn't France, who are now inarguably the best team in the world, win it?

The Batlord 07-15-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975140)
Croatia catching an inexperienced England team on an off day is actually the biggest moment in their entire history :D

France have deserved this. Been the best team and didn't need extra time in their knockouts to win. Croatia after having an easy draw fluked it through three knockouts with extra time and penalties, had hoped we would see a decent performance from them today but it's been a poor showing and the most one sided final in 20 years. Painful to watch.

So if England had gotten to the finals and won would they have deserved it after an easy draw and losing a game just to dodge a better team?

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1975218)
So if England had gotten to the finals and won would they have deserved it after an easy draw and losing a game just to dodge a better team?

We did get to "the finals".

And yes because they would have won. Croatia didn't win though. And all three of their knockout games were draws as well other than the final, which they lost.

Trollheart 07-15-2018 01:33 PM

Another month to go, Fluff.... :D

Akai 07-15-2018 01:38 PM

September

Wembley

The Batlord 07-15-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975230)
We did get to "the finals".

The **** are you on about? They got shitcanned in the semis.

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And yes because they would have won. Croatia didn't win though. And all three of their knockout games were draws as well other than the final, which they lost.
That is stupid. They didn't get to play France cause they got beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia so you can't say what they would or wouldn't have done. Cause they got beat by Croatia. And like you said England had an easy draw and then acted like fake athletes by throwing a game for a strategic advantage. Doesn't sound like a team who deserved to win.

And didn't we have a discussion a while back where you said that the World Cup isn't about deciding the best team? It's about the team that scores the most goals, something which can be affected by the teams you play and luck? So saying that a team doesn't deserve to win is nonsensical as the competition is not structured in such a way that the best team wins anyway.

MicShazam 07-15-2018 01:40 PM

A semi final is a kind of final, isn't it?

Not that it matters. Carry on.

Trollheart 07-15-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Akai (Post 1975261)
September

Wembley

August, surely?

Also, Batty don't know ****. The World Cup finals is the tournament. The World Cup FINAL (singular) is the last match which decides it. Educate yourself, fool.

The Batlord 07-15-2018 01:46 PM

Yeah nobody cares.

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1975262)
The **** are you on about? They got shitcanned in the semis.

"The finals" = the tournament proper. You asked a question I gave you the answer to the question you asked. There are two phases - qualification and the finals. The finals are the thing we've been discussing for the past month. The final is the last match.

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That is stupid. They didn't get to play France cause they got beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia so you can't say what they would or wouldn't have done. Cause they got beat by Croatia. And like you said England had an easy draw and then acted like fake athletes by throwing a game for a strategic advantage. Doesn't sound like a team who deserved to win.

And didn't we have a discussion a while back where you said that the World Cup isn't about deciding the best team? It's about the team that scores the most goals, something which can be affected by the teams you play and luck? So saying that a team doesn't deserve to win is nonsensical as the competition is not structured in such a way that the best team wins anyway.
You asked if they had won, would they have deserved to win and I said yes, by default because they would have won the game in that scenario. Croatia did not win the final. It was a hypothetical question that you asked.

The best team does not always win in cup compeitions.

And just to be a pedant one more time we didn't get beat by Croatia as the match was technically a draw.

Trollheart 07-15-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1975262)
The **** are you on about? They got shitcanned in the semis.



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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1975272)
Yeah nobody cares.

Clearly, you do. It's just sour grapes from you now that you've been proven to be a) wrong and b) ignorant of the very basics of the World Cup, and yet you continue to argue about it instead of saying all right, I know nothing about this, I'll just listen.
:soccer:

The Batlord 07-15-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975276)
And just to be a pedant one more time we didn't get beat by Croatia as the match was technically a draw.

So 2 - 1 was a mass hallucination?

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1975282)
So 2 - 1 was a mass hallucination?

The match was technically a draw and so a period of 30 minutes extra time was played, because the match was a draw. If you had put a bet on at the bookies for Croatia to win on the usual win/lose/draw markets you'd have lost your money (because the match was a draw).

MicShazam 07-15-2018 02:03 PM

If an end result of 2-1 is a draw, the I understand even less about this sport than I thought I did :laughing:

The Batlord 07-15-2018 02:04 PM

So England lost. Jesus, bro, just let it go already. It's been four days. Four days since Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England Croatia beat England .

Trollheart 07-15-2018 02:05 PM

The match was a draw after the standard 90 mins plus whatever was added on. At that point, someone had to win, so extra time was added, 15 mins per half. After that, the score was 2-1. If the score had been 1-1 or 2-2, then the match would have been a draw after extra time and gone to penalties.

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1975288)
If an end result of 2-1 is a draw, the I understand even less about this sport than I thought I did :laughing:

It wasn't 2-1. It was 2-1 aet. There is a difference.

The Batlord 07-15-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975293)
It wasn't 2-1. It was 2-1 aet. There is a difference.

This qualifies as whining, dude.

MicShazam 07-15-2018 02:07 PM

But did they lose? That's the eternal question.

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1975295)
This qualifies as whining, dude.

Well as I said, if you had put that bet on you would have lost your money. Win/lose/draw specifically refers to the 90 minutes. Other markets are offered for qualification specifically (which is what you're referring to) or to lift the cup if it's the final.

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1975297)
But did they lose? That's the eternal question.

Technically no.

The Batlord 07-15-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975299)
Well as I said, if you had put that bet on you would have lost your money. Win/lose/draw specifically refers to the 90 minutes. Other markets are offered for qualification specifically (which is what you're referring to) or to lift the cup if it's the final.



Technically no.

Did they move on the finals? No. So they lost. If you pull at that straw any harder it's going to cum.

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1975300)
Did they move on the finals? No. So they lost. If you pull at that straw any harder it's going to cum.

"Move on the finals"? :laughing:

It's not straw clutching it's stating a fact.

Trollheart 07-15-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1975300)
Did they move on the final? No. So they lost. If you pull at that straw any harder it's going to cum.

Fixed that for you. Learn the difference, Yank.

rubber soul 07-15-2018 02:17 PM

Oh, God, must.... resist....

Must.... No.... no....


Can't help it. Let's put it this way. England didn't win either, end of story.

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1975306)
Oh, God, must.... resist....

Must.... No.... no....


Can't help it. Let's put it this way. England didn't win either, end of story.

Nobody said England won. It was technically a draw.

Trollheart 07-15-2018 02:19 PM

Hello all, and welcome to The Batlord's I Don't Know **** About the World Cup But I'm Going To Argue About It Anyway Thread....:usehead: :rolleyes:

Akai 07-15-2018 02:23 PM

:laughing:

adidasss 07-15-2018 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975299)
Well as I said, if you had put that bet on you would have lost your money. Win/lose/draw specifically refers to the 90 minutes. Other markets are offered for qualification specifically (which is what you're referring to) or to lift the cup if it's the final.



Technically no.

:laughing: wow.

The Batlord 07-15-2018 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1975304)
Fixed that for you. Learn the difference, Yank.

Notice the italics. Finals = final.

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975307)
Nobody said England won. It was technically a draw.

That knocked England out of the World Cup. They lost.

The Batlord 07-15-2018 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1975314)
:laughing: wow.

Don't mind him. Fluff's just a bitter English nationalist.

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1975314)
:laughing: wow.

It is pedantic but it is a fact.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1975316)
Don't mind him. Fluff's just a bitter English nationalist.

I'm not an English nationalist.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 07-15-2018 02:42 PM

i enjoy batlord giving the wind up

Cuthbert 07-15-2018 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard (Post 1975325)
i enjoy batlord giving the wind up

It would be better if he was knowledgeable about football though.

Only one that made me laugh was the first Villa meme he made. Was like 7/10.

The Batlord 07-15-2018 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1975321)
I'm not an English nationalist.

You are a little bit tbh. A few too many Pepe memes.


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