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Trollheart 06-29-2018 03:05 PM

When's the next game, lads? Didn't feel right somehow today turning on the telly to see no footy at all. :(

Cuthbert 06-29-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1967899)
When's the next game, lads? Didn't feel right somehow today turning on the telly to see no footy at all. :(

Tomorrow.

France vs Argentina
Uruguay vs Portugal

Just absolutely top notch fixtures.

For the American banter guys if you haven't been following and are thinking of doing so, now is the time as the knockout phase starts tomorrow. This is what it's all about :cool:

England play on Tuesday.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 06-29-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1967902)

England win on Tuesday.

:cool:

Cuthbert 06-29-2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard (Post 1967906)
:cool:

:cool:

Our biggest game since Germany in 2010.

I'm nervous already :cool:

Cuthbert 06-29-2018 05:49 PM

Just been on Oddschecker and checked the odds for the winner.

Hawk, can you let us know the top 5 favourites and their odds with one of your American bookies?

Cheers if possible.

OccultHawk 06-29-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1967953)
Just been on Oddschecker and checked the odds for the winner.

Hawk, can you let us know the top 5 favourites and their odds with one of your American bookies?

Cheers if possible.

I don’t have or know a bookie (I just know the one guy who also owns a sports bar) that accepts bets on futures but Vegas has the top
5 at

Brazil 7/2
Spain 4/1
Belgium 13/2
England 7/1
France. 8/1

Cuthbert 06-29-2018 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1967961)
I don’t have or know a bookie (I just know the one guy who also owns a sports bar) that accepts bets on futures but Vegas has the top
5 at

Brazil 7/2
Spain 4/1
Belgium 13/2
England 7/1
France. 8/1

Interesting. UK bookies have the same odds as i checked. I thought 4th favourites for us was generous and maybe the odds had shortened with UK bookies because of English people betting on England.

So we are really 4th favourites with bookies. Ahead of Argentina, Uruguay and France.

Because of the draw, the bookies think we will make the semis btw (top four favourites - two on either side of the draw).

OccultHawk 06-29-2018 06:40 PM

I like England because Kane is a finisher and he’s hot at the right time and England seems like they’re emotionally in check. I took Brazil on my bracket because I don’t like to bet against history (no offense).

Cuthbert 06-29-2018 07:04 PM

Yes, Kane is a talent. Having a striker who scores at an average of about 1 goal a game (at all levels) is massive. You're basically starting games a goal up.

No offence taken btw. I went with Brazil about 9 months ago when they had pissed it in qualifying plus I was confident they would bounce back.

Trollheart 06-29-2018 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1967902)
Tomorrow.

France vs Argentina
Uruguay vs Portugal

Just absolutely top notch fixtures.

For the American banter guys if you haven't been following and are thinking of doing so, now is the time as the knockout phase starts tomorrow. This is what it's all about :cool:

England play on Tuesday.

Thanks m8 :cool:

Goofle 06-29-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard (Post 1967810)
feel like goof has the wildest bracket

Really? I feel like my chosen winners are obvious aside from Argentina beating France. But France are completely average and don't have Messi. Argentina are worse, but they do have him. Either way, Brazil would clearly beat both.

Portugal are dreadful aside from Ronaldo, whereas Uruguay are decent and have the strikers.

Croatia vs Spain is a difficult one, but football is mainly a battle of midfield, and Croatia have a far superior midfield.

debaserr 06-30-2018 02:55 AM

https://i.imgur.com/EaUQy56.png

Croatia and Belgium have impressed, wouldn't be surprised if they do better than my bracket says.

Cuthbert 06-30-2018 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1967988)
Really? I feel like my chosen winners are obvious aside from Argentina beating France. But France are completely average and don't have Messi. Argentina are worse, but they do have him. Either way, Brazil would clearly beat both.

Portugal are dreadful aside from Ronaldo, whereas Uruguay are decent and have the strikers.

Croatia vs Spain is a difficult one, but football is mainly a battle of midfield, and Croatia have a far superior midfield.

Pretty much agree with all of this except I think Spain would have too much for Croatia even with their midfielders. It's not like Spain don't have quality midfielders plus they are stronger everywhere else on the pitch.

But you are right games are often won in midfield. Guys should remember Colombia have a reject from the worst Aston Villa side of all time in theirs. England have the players to control it imo.

Cuthbert 06-30-2018 07:34 AM

Quite nervous for this.

I'll be gutted if Messi goes out. Unless of course it's against England in the final.

Messi has had a haircut and a beard trimming. Looks smart. That's good.

OccultHawk 06-30-2018 08:17 AM

Just tuned in

France up 1-0

Cuthbert 06-30-2018 08:47 AM

1-1, Angel di Maria :cool:

Half time.

Cuthbert 06-30-2018 09:08 AM

Messi with the assist :cool:

2-1 Argentina.

OccultHawk 06-30-2018 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1968154)
Messi with the assist :cool:

2-1 Argentina.

The Argentine fans are great singers!

OccultHawk 06-30-2018 09:17 AM

Equalizer


Cuthbert 06-30-2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1968156)
The Argentine fans are great singers!

I love them. In my top 3 supporters for sure.

2-2 absolutely ridiculous goal.

rubber soul 06-30-2018 09:23 AM

3-2 France.

This isn't a day for the goalies, is it?

Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:23 AM

Coming in at 3-2 France. Jesus what a game!!!! Wish I'd seen it all but, you know, life and all that...

OccultHawk 06-30-2018 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1968161)
Coming in at 3-2 France. Jesus what a game!!!! Wish I'd seen it all but, you know, life and all that...

Argentina sloppier than Madonna’s vagina.

Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1968162)
Argentina sloppier than Madonna’s vagina.

Pure 24-carat Hawk! :clap:

Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:26 AM

Holy ****! 4-2 to the frogs now!:yikes:

Cuthbert 06-30-2018 09:27 AM

**** me :(

OccultHawk 06-30-2018 09:28 AM

France tighter than virgin pussy

Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:29 AM

Thought that was in!! Argentina rocking now....

Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:31 AM

What odds did Vegas give for an Argentine defeat, Hawk?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 06-30-2018 09:32 AM

mbappe claiming the throne today

Cuthbert 06-30-2018 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard (Post 1968170)
mbappe claiming the throne today

Not yet :D

Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:34 AM


Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:39 AM

Argentina aren't really playing like a team that are two goals down and about to go out of the World Cup, are they? You'd think the French goal would be under siege, but they've barely had a shot. And what's the ****ing deal with Aguero? Where's that City magic??

Akai 06-30-2018 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1968148)
England in the final.


Cuthbert 06-30-2018 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1968176)
Argentina aren't really playing like a team that are two goals down and about to go out of the World Cup, are they? You'd think the French goal would be under siege, but they've barely had a shot. And what's the ****ing deal with Aguero? Where's that City magic??

He's been crap every time he's played in the World Cup. Guys will focus on Messi though.

OccultHawk 06-30-2018 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1968168)
What odds did Vegas give for an Argentine defeat, Hawk?

Betting on France to win pays $125 for $100 bet. That makes it sound like Argentina was the favorite but they were accepting bets for higher payouts if you bet on Argentina to win.

The reason why that works out to be profitable (in the long run) casino is they collect on both sides if there’s a tie at the end of regulation. If the gambler bets on both sides he’s essentially betting against a draw.

Short answer France was favored by a fairly small margin. About 20%.

Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1968179)
He's been crap every time he's played in the World Cup. Guys will focus on Messi though.

Messi has not been great though has he? Well, not since I joined the game, which was just about 68 minutes in. He's had two chances at least now to level up and he's ****ed them both up. Have to give credit to France though.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1968180)
Betting on France to win pays $125 for $100 bet. That makes it sound like Argentina was the favorite but they were accepting bets for higher payouts if you bet on Argentina to win.

The reason why that works out to be profitable (in the long run) casino is they collect on both sides if there’s a tie at the end of regulation. If the gambler bets on both sides he’s essentially betting against a draw.

Short answer France was favored by a fairly small margin. About 20%.

They're pretty **** odds aren't they? I would have figured maybe 100-1 on France or something.

Cuthbert 06-30-2018 09:48 AM

Messi got the assist for the second goal.

Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1968182)
Messi got the assist for the second goal.

Yeah but what has he done lately? He's the kind of guy you should be able to turn to when the chips are down and the game is against you. He should be able to turn the tide. Not on his own, in fairness, but he hasn't done much that I can see.

Don't think Diego will be flipping anyone the bird this time! :D

Trollheart 06-30-2018 09:50 AM

OK well **** me that's all I can say! :D


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