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Old 07-15-2018, 01:38 PM   #2051 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2018, 01:39 PM   #2052 (permalink)
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We did get to "the finals".
The **** are you on about? They got shitcanned in the semis.

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And yes because they would have won. Croatia didn't win though. And all three of their knockout games were draws as well other than the final, which they lost.
That is stupid. They didn't get to play France cause they got beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia so you can't say what they would or wouldn't have done. Cause they got beat by Croatia. And like you said England had an easy draw and then acted like fake athletes by throwing a game for a strategic advantage. Doesn't sound like a team who deserved to win.

And didn't we have a discussion a while back where you said that the World Cup isn't about deciding the best team? It's about the team that scores the most goals, something which can be affected by the teams you play and luck? So saying that a team doesn't deserve to win is nonsensical as the competition is not structured in such a way that the best team wins anyway.
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A semi final is a kind of final, isn't it?

Not that it matters. Carry on.
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Old 07-15-2018, 01:45 PM   #2054 (permalink)
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August, surely?

Also, Batty don't know ****. The World Cup finals is the tournament. The World Cup FINAL (singular) is the last match which decides it. Educate yourself, fool.
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Old 07-15-2018, 01:46 PM   #2055 (permalink)
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The **** are you on about? They got shitcanned in the semis.
"The finals" = the tournament proper. You asked a question I gave you the answer to the question you asked. There are two phases - qualification and the finals. The finals are the thing we've been discussing for the past month. The final is the last match.

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That is stupid. They didn't get to play France cause they got beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia beat by Croatia so you can't say what they would or wouldn't have done. Cause they got beat by Croatia. And like you said England had an easy draw and then acted like fake athletes by throwing a game for a strategic advantage. Doesn't sound like a team who deserved to win.

And didn't we have a discussion a while back where you said that the World Cup isn't about deciding the best team? It's about the team that scores the most goals, something which can be affected by the teams you play and luck? So saying that a team doesn't deserve to win is nonsensical as the competition is not structured in such a way that the best team wins anyway.
You asked if they had won, would they have deserved to win and I said yes, by default because they would have won the game in that scenario. Croatia did not win the final. It was a hypothetical question that you asked.

The best team does not always win in cup compeitions.

And just to be a pedant one more time we didn't get beat by Croatia as the match was technically a draw.
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Yeah nobody cares.
Clearly, you do. It's just sour grapes from you now that you've been proven to be a) wrong and b) ignorant of the very basics of the World Cup, and yet you continue to argue about it instead of saying all right, I know nothing about this, I'll just listen.
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Old 07-15-2018, 01:57 PM   #2058 (permalink)
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And just to be a pedant one more time we didn't get beat by Croatia as the match was technically a draw.
So 2 - 1 was a mass hallucination?
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So 2 - 1 was a mass hallucination?
The match was technically a draw and so a period of 30 minutes extra time was played, because the match was a draw. If you had put a bet on at the bookies for Croatia to win on the usual win/lose/draw markets you'd have lost your money (because the match was a draw).
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If an end result of 2-1 is a draw, the I understand even less about this sport than I thought I did
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