World Cup 2018 thread

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

You made a bad joke and I insulted you for it. This has been a vastly normal interaction for us for literally years, and there have been many times when I've brought your sister into it. What's the difference here? I think you just misinterpreted my intentions.

You just don't get it, do you? You can't just come out of the blue and say stuff like that about Karen. There wasn't even a smilie, and then you went on to say "I'm not apologising". What the **** was wrong with the joke, what made it so bad that you had to respond with the nuclear option? Why did you feel you needed to bring Karen into it? There's a line, Batty. There's a ****ing line. If I had thought you were just being your usual jokey self, I'd still have a problem with it, because there are certain things you just don't say about people. Chula may at one point have said "have at my family" but if you or anyone else wrote "hope your daughter dies in childbirth" do you not think he'd have a problem with that? You can't just say what you like when there's no valid reason to respond like that.

[The Batlord]

I don't why though. I've made posts that were far more and legit mean spirited toward TH for the sake of being a dick and he interpreted them rightly as a friendly shot across the bow that merited an equal response for the sake of bant wars. This was just your run-of-the-mill one post vs. one post that ends in five minutes.

[Trollheart]

Right, so this is clearly ****ing understood by ALL....

DO NOT MAKE DISTASTEFUL JOKES ABOUT MY SISTER. EVER.

It's not funny, she's not here to defend herself, and anyway I thought you were all supposed to be men, not little ****ing retard ****s who would slag off a woman who is dealing with a crippling, debilitating illness?

Be.On.Notice.
No.****ing. More.
Ever.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I don't why though. I've made posts that were far more and legit mean spirited toward TH for the sake of being a dick and he interpreted them rightly as a friendly shot across the bow that merited an equal response for the sake of bant wars. This was just your run-of-the-mill one post vs. one post that ends in five minutes.

TH has apparently reneged on granting you permission to make jokes about his sister. Let's respect that, however avant-garde the reasoning might be.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Frownland

TH has apparently reneged on granting you permission to make jokes about his sister. Let's respect that, however avant-garde the reasoning might be.

FFS, he never had permission. He just never crossed the line before. I never said to him "go ahead and make fun of Karen". I just winced and accepted when he did. But this was too far. It's over. Now.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

You just don't get it, do you? You can't just come out of the blue and say stuff like that about Karen.

I literally have and you've not only been okay with it but defended it to other people even when other people didn't make an issue of it. I'm not apologizing because I've done nothing out of the ordinary that I feel (or you've felt) crossed the boundary five ****ing million times in the better part of a decade. At this point I'm forced to assume that something has happened to you that has nothing to do with me that has set you off and I'm simply a scapegoat for your anger. You just got a bad bill you weren't expecting or a family member said something ****ty about you that you weren't okay with and now another person said something about you and you're transferring that anger to me for no reason.

I state yet again: THIS IS COMMON INTERACTION WITH YOU AND IT IS YOUR REACTION TO IT THAT IS ABNORMAL, NOT MY STATEMENT. This is why I am not apologizing. It's like apologizing for going punch for punch with a friend and all of a sudden they thought you hit them too hard in the shoulder and now it's a thing for no apparent reason.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

FFS, he never had permission. He just never crossed the line before. I never said to him "go ahead and make fun of Karen". I just winced and accepted when he did. But this was too far. It's over. Now.

It was quite heavily implied that you were essentially granting permission because you'd know it's all in good fun (which applies to his post in this case but whatever). You've made it clear that that's not the case and I have a brick aimed at Batlord now if he decides to get snarky.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I literally have and you've not only been okay with it but defended it to other people even when other people didn't make an issue of it. I'm not apologizing because I've done nothing out of the ordinary that I feel (or you've felt) crossed the boundary five ****ing million times in the better part of a decade. At this point I'm forced to assume that something has happened to you that has nothing to do with me that has set you off and I'm simply a scapegoat for your anger. You just got a bad bill you weren't expecting or a family member said something ****ty about you that you weren't okay with and now another person said something about you and you're transferring that anger to me for no reason.

I state yet again: THIS IS COMMON INTERACTION WITH YOU AND IT IS YOUR REACTION TO IT THAT IS ABNORMAL, NOT MY STATEMENT. This is why I am not apologizing. It's like apologizing for going punch for punch with a friend and all of a sudden they thought you hit them too hard in the shoulder and now it's a thing for no apparent reason.

You're completely wrong. Nothing has happened and I'm in a fine mood, which is why I was floored by your sudden attack which, again, came out of absolutely nowhere. You've mentioned Karen before, joked about her even sexually but always in a back and forth, never a nasty way like that, giving no indication you realised you had gone too far. I'm not expecting you to apologise; you're too much of a **** for that. But just leave her out of your scummy little comments in future. And that goes for everyone.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

It was quite heavily implied that you were essentially granting permission because you'd know it's all in good fun (which applies to his post in this case but whatever). You've made it clear that that's not the case and I have a brick aimed at Batlord now if he decides to get snarky.

I'm not gonna mock his sister again if this is how the new status quo is but I'm also waiting for some retraction by tomorrow at the latest about how TH was just in a bad place and taking it out on me and he's sorry for being irrational. If not then I'm gonna assume that he's ****ing crazy and this is my wake up call.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

You're completely wrong. Nothing has happened and I'm in a fine mood, which is why I was floored by your sudden attack which, again, came out of absolutely nowhere. You've mentioned Karen before, joked about her even sexually but always in a back and forth, never a nasty way like that, giving no indication you realised you had gone too far. I'm not expecting you to apologise; you're too much of a **** for that. But just leave her out of your scummy little comments in future. And that goes for everyone.

It is pretty abnormal tbh, that's why I asked if you were being serious.