The English Football Thread

[DeadShotKeen]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

There's already salary capping in English football.

League one & League two have been doing it for years. Clubs can't spend more than 60 per cent of their total income on players salaries.

Are you sure? I've never heard of that but even if it's true it's only applying it at a level where there is essentially parity anyway. Also the "percentage of turnover" wouldn't help Everton keep hold of Rooney etc., if anything it increases the likelihood he leaves. It's a flatter cap that's needed, which, of course, requires that the clubs in any league be on roughly the same footing.

Can you provide a source for this? I watch vast amounts of football at various levels yet have never heard of this. And why wouldn't it apply also to the Championship, which is also under the same Football League umbrella?

Unknown Soldier - of course you're right that the 2 big Scottish clubs are poor but that's due to the difficulty they face attracting top level players to a mediocre league. My point is that if you put them in a European Super League then with their infrastructure and massive fan bases they would compete. The same would be true if you put them in the EPL (after a few seasons of getting up to speed), however I don't support that within the current structure as it makes no sense. Why not let Bayern Munich have a crack at Serie A etc. There are good logistical reasons for it but it's just a minor fiddle when we really need a much bigger shake-up.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by DeadShotKeen

Are you sure? I've never heard of that but even if it's true it's only applying it at a level where there is essentially parity anyway. Also the "percentage of turnover" wouldn't help Everton keep hold of Rooney etc., if anything it increases the likelihood he leaves. It's a flatter cap that's needed, which, of course, requires that the clubs in any league be on roughly the same footing.

Can you provide a source for this? I watch vast amounts of football at various levels yet have never heard of this. And why wouldn't it apply also to the Championship, which is also under the same Football League umbrella?

It was introduced to League two in 2003 to help try & reduce the amount of teams going into administration. League one went ahead the following season.

It was a voluntary scheme more to keep clubs solvent more than anything. I guess the reason it never went to the championship was because I can't imagine clubs trying to get into the premier league wanting to cap players wages.

I have no idea if it's still running now.

Here's the best article I can find on it.
Whelan calls for top-flight salary cap - News & Comment, Football - The Independent

[DeadShotKeen]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

It was introduced to League two in 2003 to help try & reduce the amount of teams going into administration. League one went ahead the following season.

It was a voluntary scheme more to keep clubs solvent more than anything. I guess the reason it never went to the championship was because I can't imagine clubs trying to get into the premier league wanting to cap players wages.

I have no idea if it's still running now.

Here's the best article I can find on it.
Whelan calls for top-flight salary cap - News & Comment, Football - The Independent

That's a good piece, thanks for that fella. I see that the scheme is/was voluntary like you say, which sorts of defeats the object and hasn't stopped Notts County running into big trouble.

Whelan is a bright guy anyway, I always enjoy his comments. I think he's spot on there. As a huge fan personally of principally 3 sports (football, rugby league and basketball) I have found my interest leaning more towards the latter 2 over the last few years purely for the reasons he raises there.