The English Football Thread

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 08-20-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

Did I? I must have been drunk as I can't remember it.

Unfortunately he was busy

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~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-20-2018, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Imo MLS definitely needs salary caps to ensure some degree of parity in the league. Americans are surprisingly content with MLS being a stepping stone to European leagues. If we tried to recruit the highest tier they’d all end up in the communities with the most Hispanics and after a few non-competitive seasons the rest of the country would lose interest. I know the USA has reputation for being obsessed with superlatives like “greatest” but as sports fans we’re surprising sophisticated (besides batlord). For example, very few college football players make the NFL but attendance at college football games still blow the NFL away. We’re never going to out premier the premier league(s) in Europe and making that the objective would be a recipe for disappointment. I follow football players from college to the nfl and often know their entire career. Hopefully, MLS will groom players for big time play in Europe and then when we watch big league soccer from Europe it’ll be more meaningful because we’ll know the players that came up through the ranks in MLS.

Great post Hawk mate. Obviously you want some parity but I don't think salary caps would result in a Scottish or German style monopolisation of the league. Plus surely fans want to see their teams and the league get stronger. Why would you want Kaka at 36 instead of 26?

In time I think you could tempt South Americans.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Good post mate.

OccultHawk · 08-20-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

Great post Hawk mate. Obviously you want some parity but I don't think salary caps would result in a Scottish or German style monopolisation of the league. Plus surely fans want to see their teams and the league get stronger. Why would you want Kaka at 36 instead of 26?

In time I think you could tempt South Americans.

Good post mate.

Well, the league is healthy so I’m kind of thinking if ain’t broke...

Also, big name studs don’t mean much to me because I don’t know much about soccer

It’s probably such a different mindset

I went to J-League games when I lived in Japan and they got their own way of doing things, too. And their baseball, too, in fact but still people attend and enjoy the game.

When I watched Japanese pro-baseball I thought how bad it would suck if MLB didn’t keep the best players in the world which I’m sure is how you feel about the soccer you enjoy.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-21-2018, 12:48 PM

Yeah I hear what you're saying though it's a bit different here because we don't have all the top players playing here in just one place in the same way you would have with MLB in the US. You can find elite players and teams all over Europe and in South America. And even in places with smaller leagues like Scotland, Portugal, the Netherlands, Poland, Belgium and Russia you can still see exciting stuff and there's a lot there to attract me to a game which the US doesn't have at the moment I don't think. Its seen as a retirement home a bit, not as bad as China or Qatar but room for improvement imo.

OccultHawk · 08-21-2018, 01:00 PM

Fair enough bro

I think both our opinions got a full shot there

You should make Atlanta United your default MLS team like I did with QPR.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-21-2018, 01:12 PM

Birmingham Legion FC

Brummie bastards we are here, eat your corn dogs drink your beer

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-25-2018, 07:33 AM

Not bad Wolves. Keep doing your thing you'll be OK.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-27-2018, 02:56 PM

Sir Harry

Well done Spurs. Enjoyed that.

OccultHawk · 08-27-2018, 03:58 PM

I just spent some time reading the MLS Salary Cap rules.

1) it’s confusing af
2) they do need to raise it (but incrementally to keep balance in the league)

My team Atlanta United has a 25 year old bad ass from Venezuela

Josef Martinez

We might lose him to Europe but I wish him the best.

Btw, did you know Venezuela has never qualified for the World Cup?

They pump a bunch of dudes into MLB (baseball)

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-27-2018, 04:10 PM

From what I understand, in MLS you can have something like three players paid an obscene amount in the squad and then the rest are on a fraction of that. So you will see Villa, Lampard and Kaka on the same team and the rest are absolute no marks. At least it was this way a few years ago.

I am aware Kaka doesn't play with David Villa or Lampard btw just using those as an example.

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08-27-2018, 03:58 PM	#7459 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I just spent some time reading the MLS Salary Cap rules. 1) it’s confusing af 2) they do need to raise it (but incrementally to keep balance in the league) My team Atlanta United has a 25 year old bad ass from Venezuela Josef Martinez We might lose him to Europe but I wish him the best. Btw, did you know Venezuela has never qualified for the World Cup? They pump a bunch of dudes into MLB (baseball) __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

08-21-2018, 12:48 PM	#7454 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Yeah I hear what you're saying though it's a bit different here because we don't have all the top players playing here in just one place in the same way you would have with MLB in the US. You can find elite players and teams all over Europe and in South America. And even in places with smaller leagues like Scotland, Portugal, the Netherlands, Poland, Belgium and Russia you can still see exciting stuff and there's a lot there to attract me to a game which the US doesn't have at the moment I don't think. Its seen as a retirement home a bit, not as bad as China or Qatar but room for improvement imo.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Birmingham Legion FC Brummie bastards we are here, eat your corn dogs drink your beer

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Not bad Wolves. Keep doing your thing you'll be OK.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Sir Harry Well done Spurs. Enjoyed that.

08-27-2018, 04:10 PM	#7460 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	From what I understand, in MLS you can have something like three players paid an obscene amount in the squad and then the rest are on a fraction of that. So you will see Villa, Lampard and Kaka on the same team and the rest are absolute no marks. At least it was this way a few years ago. I am aware Kaka doesn't play with David Villa or Lampard btw just using those as an example.