The English Football Thread

**Frownland** · 08-14-2018, 11:03 AM

Wright isn't saying you shouldn't criticise a black player and that if you do it's racist. If he did, you're going to have to prove it to me.

Trollheart · 08-14-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Wright isn't saying you shouldn't criticise a black player and that if you do it's racist. If he did, you're going to have to prove it to me.

I did. He says "what else could it be?" Why do I have to keep repeating this to you?

**Frownland** · 08-14-2018, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I did. He says "what else could it be?" Why do I have to keep repeating this to you?

That's not the same as saying you shouldn't criticise a black player and that if you do it's racist. Only a racist would think that.

Trollheart · 08-14-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That's not the same as saying you shouldn't criticise a black player and that if you do it's racist. Only a racist would think that.

Okay. I'm done talking with you. It's very clear that that's exactly what he's implying, but if you'd rather consider me racist for getting what he's clearly putting across, and you'd rather pretend he's not saying that, up to you. You exhaust me, you really do. It's just a waste of time arguing with you.

**Frownland** · 08-14-2018, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

It's very clear that that's exactly what he's implying

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Nah, you just suck at inferring.

What would it take for you to believe that there was racism behind it?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-14-2018, 11:16 AM

Racism, mainly.

**Frownland** · 08-14-2018, 11:18 AM

And what kinds of examples would you consider valid examples of racism? Because it seems like people think it can only exist in the form of hooded robes and lynchings.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-14-2018, 11:25 AM

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And what kinds of examples would you consider valid examples of racism? Because it seems like people think it can only exist in the form of hooded robes and lynchings.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ns-racism.html

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/a-bla...ball-1-1430353

Mario Balotelli suffers racist abuse from his own Italy fans at World Cup training camp | Daily Mail Online

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27183851

No hooded robes or lynchings there.

**Frownland** · 08-14-2018, 11:31 AM

^^^^

Word. What do you think of that, TH?

The Batlord · 08-14-2018, 11:38 AM

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I'm just going to stop responding to you when it comes to racism. You're dumb and fixated.

There is no, so far as I can see, proof or evidence supporting the fact that Sterling (who you know ****-all about, but that never stopped you of course) is being targeted for his colour as opposed to his ****ty finishing.

Racist: That Sterling, he's a ****ing monkey/ Not as good as white players/ Should have stayed in Africa (though he's probably born in the UK) etc etc

Not racist: That Sterling, he couldn't score if the goal was a hundred feet wide.

You have to be able to prove that the reason he's being criticised is because of his colour. If that's proven, then yes, it's a racist thing. If not, then it's just because he a **** footballer.

If you allow any black footballer to be exempt from criticism IN CASE it might be taken as racism, then that's ****ing stupid. Then you can't make any comment about a black person without them screaming racist! This is fine if the comment is racist or racist based, but not if they or someone else are just using it to excuse or draw attention away from the real reason they're being criticised.

tl;dr: just because a black person gets criticised does not NECESSARILY and AUTOMATICALLY make that criticism racist based.

Edit: You've changed your ****ing username?????????

If you had to prove racism to be able to call it out then nothing would ever happen. If someone doesn't like a soccer player because they're black but they're not self-aware enough to realize that they're being racist then they'll just use whatever excuse they can to **** on them. You can understand that, right? Cause if not then you need to saw a hole in your bubble world and come join us on the planet Earth.

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Ian Wright is. He's implying it. "What else could it be" indeed.

Do try to keep up, there's a good lad.

You know if you're disingenuous enough to interpret it like that then you probably are a racist who's looking for something to jump on and run away with.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	And what kinds of examples would you consider valid examples of racism? Because it seems like people think it can only exist in the form of hooded robes and lynchings. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	^^^^ Word. What do you think of that, TH? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Racism, mainly.