The English Football Thread

**Goofle** · 08-18-2013, 06:33 PM

Lampard is certainly an all-time great.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-18-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Comments on Chelsea and Mourinho's second coming? Is Frank Lampard up there with the greatest of all time or what?

He's an English great, dunno about all-time. How many players would make it into that group (I'd guess around 50?)?

If Lampard is an all-time great then Gerrard has to be as well and I don't think he is.

**Goofle** · 08-18-2013, 07:07 PM

Gerrard certainly is lol

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-18-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Gerrard certainly is lol

All-time great? In the same bracket as the likes of Zidane, Messi, Maradona, Ronaldo x 2 and so on?

He's not. He's probably on the tier below with Del Piero, Giggs, Nedved, Davids, Totti... Great players who were among the best of their generation but not quite the cutting edge of the sport.

**Goofle** · 08-18-2013, 07:18 PM

Can't limit terms like "all-time great" to your personal favourite ten players. I would say something like the Top 10-15 best players in their position/style ever could be regarded as all-time greats.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-18-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Can't limit terms like "all-time great" to your personal favourite ten players. I would say something like the Top 10-15 best players in their position/style ever could be regarded as all-time greats.

Seems too many to be honest.

Same with the term 'world class', that's used too much. I reckon there's only about 10 players who are worthy of that term.

Is Scholes an all-time great?

**Goofle** · 08-18-2013, 07:41 PM

Of course.

Trollheart · 08-18-2013, 08:15 PM

Sorry, sorry! Meant ENGLISH great! Big mistake to leave out that word. No, I meant alltime English great. I mean, I wouldn't rate him against say David Villa or Messi or Ronaldo, also I don't know that much about European football to make that claim. No, England great.
Sorry guys.

**Goofle** · 08-18-2013, 08:25 PM

It's mental to even question his stance as an English great. Of course he is.

But as I said, he is an all-time great footballer.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-18-2013, 09:14 PM

Not for me, he's never been the best in his position in the world, I do love Lampard though. He is likable and comes across very intelligent in his post match interviews, they aren't just 'erm' and 'y'know'. And obviously his record is insane for a midfielder. He is an English great though, one of the players who I think has come away from tournaments with a bit of credit (Ashley Cole also.)

Should have been Scholes and Lamps in our midfield with Creasehead left out imo. Wasting Scholes on the left wing

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That goal against Germany still makes me angry now.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Not for me, he's never been the best in his position in the world, I do love Lampard though. He is likable and comes across very intelligent in his post match interviews, they aren't just 'erm' and 'y'know'. And obviously his record is insane for a midfielder. He is an English great though, one of the players who I think has come away from tournaments with a bit of credit (Ashley Cole also.) Should have been Scholes and Lamps in our midfield with Creasehead left out imo. Wasting Scholes on the left wing . England . That goal against Germany still makes me angry now.