The English Football Thread

**Goofle** · 05-10-2013, 06:01 PM

We aren't.

Wenger is a much better manager than Mourinho.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-10-2013, 06:13 PM

I find it strange Mourinho is rated as highly as he is.

Wenger for all his faults has had a greater impact on the modern game than Mourinho. Still think Mourinho is good though, just a total impact manager. A lot of his appeal is because of his character. People liked Balotelli for similar reasons.

Plus he's becoming an increasingly sad bastard.

Newkie · 05-10-2013, 06:40 PM

I think Mourinho is still a pretty top notch manager. Winning league titles with Inter and Porto wasn't impressive, but his champions league exploits with those two have to be respected given the squads at his disposal. Definitely agree a lot of the fuss about him is due to his personality, which is far superior to Wengers most of the time..I also kind of like him because he and AVB are part of Bobby Robson's managerial legacy, I still wonder what might have happened if he had taken the assistant manager role at Newcastle when Sir Bobby came but there we go.

Wenger is the best manager in the PL imo with fergie going. It's always been pretty close between those two, although if you'd asked 6 years ago I would definitely have said Wenger...

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-10-2013, 07:23 PM

Angry Wenger hits out at pre-Bayern press conference - YouTube

Wenger's stress levels here >>>>>

"Why are you looking at me"
"It's your press conference"
"OK"

ffs

**Goofle** · 05-11-2013, 05:25 AM

Fergie is the best manager of all time alongside Rinus Michels for me. No matter how much I love Wenger it would have been hard to say he was above Fergie.

Also, look into how much Inter spent in order to win the CL. Might change your perception of Jose's triumph there. Especially given the absolutely horrendous football he played.

Newkie · 05-11-2013, 07:16 AM

Fergie is the best, but as I say if you'd asked me back 6-7 years ago I'd have said Wenger. Partly out of my hate for Fergie back then, which has somewhat subsided, but also because I honestly thought Wenger had done more, all things considered. Now though I can't help but take off my hat to ferguson.

Hmm, how much did he spend? I mean bearing in mind they sold Ibra for 46 mil and went on to win the CL without him, their best player. I only really remember them bringing in Muntari...Eto'o was obviously part of the Ibra deal and it was great business. Poor football...well, it was an Italian side after all. It was definitely better football and more deserved than Di Matteo's win with Chelsea IMO.

Newkie · 05-11-2013, 07:20 AM

I mean, people go on about squad disharmony and whatever, but look at the side Benitez inherited and how badly he did with Inter. He's still a good manager with transfers aside, but he couldn't get anywhere near Mourinho. If the players turned against him well, it just shows how well Mourinho did to get them on side in the first place. Like playing Eto'o on the wing etc.

**Goofle** · 05-11-2013, 07:37 AM

He played Eto'o at right back some times

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-11-2013, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle11

He played Eto'o at right back some times

Serious?

School me on Rinus Michels, I was talking about him before and total football on another forum. That's where I got on to the Mourinho/Wenger thing.

Anyone watching Villa? Come at us

Oh and - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ed-London.html

Newkie · 05-11-2013, 07:43 AM

Really?

Still, be better than Bosingwa.

05-10-2013, 06:13 PM	#4572 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	I find it strange Mourinho is rated as highly as he is. Wenger for all his faults has had a greater impact on the modern game than Mourinho. Still think Mourinho is good though, just a total impact manager. A lot of his appeal is because of his character. People liked Balotelli for similar reasons. Plus he's becoming an increasingly sad bastard.

05-10-2013, 06:40 PM	#4573 (permalink)
Newkie Boozy Lad Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newport, South Wales Posts: 482	I think Mourinho is still a pretty top notch manager. Winning league titles with Inter and Porto wasn't impressive, but his champions league exploits with those two have to be respected given the squads at his disposal. Definitely agree a lot of the fuss about him is due to his personality, which is far superior to Wengers most of the time..I also kind of like him because he and AVB are part of Bobby Robson's managerial legacy, I still wonder what might have happened if he had taken the assistant manager role at Newcastle when Sir Bobby came but there we go. Wenger is the best manager in the PL imo with fergie going. It's always been pretty close between those two, although if you'd asked 6 years ago I would definitely have said Wenger...

05-10-2013, 07:23 PM	#4574 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Angry Wenger hits out at pre-Bayern press conference - YouTube Wenger's stress levels here >>>>> "Why are you looking at me" "It's your press conference" "OK" ffs

05-11-2013, 07:16 AM	#4576 (permalink)
Newkie Boozy Lad Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newport, South Wales Posts: 482	Fergie is the best, but as I say if you'd asked me back 6-7 years ago I'd have said Wenger. Partly out of my hate for Fergie back then, which has somewhat subsided, but also because I honestly thought Wenger had done more, all things considered. Now though I can't help but take off my hat to ferguson. Hmm, how much did he spend? I mean bearing in mind they sold Ibra for 46 mil and went on to win the CL without him, their best player. I only really remember them bringing in Muntari...Eto'o was obviously part of the Ibra deal and it was great business. Poor football...well, it was an Italian side after all. It was definitely better football and more deserved than Di Matteo's win with Chelsea IMO.

05-11-2013, 07:20 AM	#4577 (permalink)
Newkie Boozy Lad Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newport, South Wales Posts: 482	I mean, people go on about squad disharmony and whatever, but look at the side Benitez inherited and how badly he did with Inter. He's still a good manager with transfers aside, but he couldn't get anywhere near Mourinho. If the players turned against him well, it just shows how well Mourinho did to get them on side in the first place. Like playing Eto'o on the wing etc.

05-11-2013, 07:43 AM	#4580 (permalink)
Newkie Boozy Lad Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newport, South Wales Posts: 482	Really? Still, be better than Bosingwa.