The English Football Thread

[right-track]

You'll be telling me he didn't mean to be racist next?

[Face]

Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

The culture excuse is pathetic imo. It doesn't make it any less wrong. Suarez knew what he was doing and he got caught.

To be fair I know a few Scousers who think he is a tw@t as well not trying to have a pop at you Face you seem a good lad.

I've lived abroad, and you come to understand that while here someone has to be really racist to break the stigma. While in other places...it's like calling out someones nationality when you insult them almost (you fat yank twat), still bad, but not AS bad.

What do you to think about the terry thing. What I find odd is if he called him black, that would've been fine for the FA. If he called him a c*nt...that's fine too. But put the two together and it's not? And then someone else joking about enrique being gay for whitening his teeth being fined too.

[Face]

I may support liverpool, but I'm not a filthy scouser!

[right-track]

Originally Posted by Face

What do you to think about the terry thing. What I find odd is if he called him black, that would've been fine for the FA. If he called him a count...that's fine too. But put the two together and it's not?

If you call a man, black and he's black. You're stating a fact
If you call a man a **** and he's a ****. You're stating a fact.

If you call a man a black **** and he's black and a ****. You're stating a fact.
You're also being racist!

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by right-track

You'll be telling me he didn't mean to be racist next?

Does a comedian telling a racist joke make him a racist person?

I could say someone is a black bastard and it wouldn't make me racist. Real racism is the belief that races have certain traits or charecteristics because of their race, believing that they are inferior because of their race etc, that is racism. Suarez calling Evra those names means he was trying to wind him up, it doesn't necessarily mean he believes black people are inferior, likewise having black friends or being friendly with Glen Johnson doesn't mean you are not a racist.

It is your beliefs and ideologies that determi e whether you are a racist person or not. Don't see why that is such a ludicrous thing to say?

[right-track]

Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

Does a comedian telling a racist joke make him a racist person?

I'd call it bad taste. Also extremely ignorant.
Also no excuse, therefore, racist!

[right-track]

Look, if you're an intelligent man and you make a racist joke/remark about another person, apart from being an idiot, whether they like it or not...they're being racist.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Face

I've lived abroad, and you come to understand that while here someone has to be really racist to break the stigma. While in other places...it's like calling out someones nationality when you insult them almost (you fat yank twat), still bad, but not AS bad.

What do you to think about the terry thing. What I find odd is if he called him black, that would've been fine for the FA. If he called him a c*nt...that's fine too. But put the two together and it's not? And then someone else joking about enrique being gay for whitening his teeth being fined too.

What Terry said was racist no doubt. He didn't neutrally point out Anton was black, he insinuated there was something wrong with being black by succeeding the word black with an insult. The statement was loaded with pejorative intent.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by right-track

Look, if you're an intelligent man and you make a racist joke/remark about another person, apart from being an idiot, whether they like it or not...they're being racist.

You are arguing with yourself there tbh mate because that is what I have already said.

I said saying something racist does not necessarily make one a racist person.

[right-track]

Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

You are arguing with yourself there tbh mate because that is what I have already said.

I said saying something racist does not necessarily make one a racist person.

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