The English Football Thread

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There was an article about the extra time stuff, and it was shown to be true.

Any time a (then) top four team is losing at home, they get more time then other games on average. And IIRC man'u averaged just a bit more then the others.

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Injury time stats 2011/12 season;

Wigan
169m 25s

Newcastle
168m 20s

Stoke
166m 52s

Arsenal
164m 54s

Chelsea
161m 31s

Blackburn
161m 28s

Norwich
160m 48s

Everton
159m 50s

Aston Villa
159m 14 s

Sunderland
156m 19s

Tottenham
156m 14s

West Brom
153m 18s

QPR
150m 57s

Wolves
150m 42s

Fulham
150m 34s

Liverpool
149m 45s

Swansea
148m 44s

Man City
146m 42s

Man United
140m 40s

Bolton
139m 35s

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Originally Posted by Face

There was an article about the extra time stuff, and it was shown to be true.

Any time a (then) top four team is losing at home, they get more time then other games on average. And IIRC man'u averaged just a bit more then the others.

And before you start with the top home teams getting more, take a look at the difference between Wigan and Bolton and you'll notice not much of a difference considering it over the season. Same will apply any which way you try to look at it.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

3-0 at home to Wigan is a terrible result.

Villa sure to go down.

Fixed that for you

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Fixed that for you

The transfer window is key. It'd be alright if this were an experienced team capable of being mentally robust but a lot of these are kids and the morale must be rock bottom. The Bradford games can't come soon enough, making it to Wembley will give them a great boost.

[Trollheart]

Yeah, not if we lose. Sorry for being downbeat but it's hard to be any other way when your team has been beaten 8-0 (Jesus!), 4-0 and now 3-0 in three successive matches. It's hard to see the bright side, y'know?

[Face]

Originally Posted by right-track

And before you start with the top home teams getting more, take a look at the difference between Wigan and Bolton and you'll notice not much of a difference considering it over the season. Same will apply any which way you try to look at it.

Those times mean nothing without showing which extra minutes are played when the respective team is losing/winning.

Like I said, there's an article about it, I think it was on sky sports.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by right-track

Injury time stats 2011/12 season;

Those stats are difficult to rely on though, as Man United will be winning more often than other teams going into injury time and keeping the ball = less injury time.

If it's a draw between two teams and the ball has been out of play a lot, lots of stoppages = more injury time.

Slightly related but it's like when ABU's moan about penalty decisions, at face value it may seem like the top teams get more penalties awarded to them, but simple stats don't factor in things such as top teams will spend more time attacking, more time in the opponent's penalty area = more penalties. It's inevitable. Although I did see a table last season of penalties given and Man United were near the bottom.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yeah, not if we lose. Sorry for being downbeat but it's hard to be any other way when your team has been beaten 8-0 (Jesus!), 4-0 and now 3-0 in three successive matches. It's hard to see the bright side, y'know?

Yeah I get you. I don't think Villa will lose, Bradford are 4th tier (I know they beat Arsenal but this will be over two legs). Villa should have enough to beat them and turn any deficit from the first leg around once they play the return, Villa Park should be rocking.

I actually might be at this game as I'm waiting for tickets to go on GS, £20 in North Stand lower, watch out for Fluffy Kittens on MOTD

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SUAREZ! Looks like it was a good week for transferring in lambert too.

Benitez doing well with chelsea is annoying. He always had good tactics but was pretty clueless in the transfer market. Him having his big money already bought for him and without his input seems to be working...annoyingly enough.