The English Football Thread

Mojo · 10-07-2012, 09:59 AM

Newcastle v Man United

I'm really looking forward to this one. Welbeck, Rooney and RVP as a forward three should be interesting to see and, although I expect Newcastle to play well and work hard, I think Man United will edge it.

Trollheart · 10-09-2012, 10:14 AM

What's the story with John Terry? I thought he was banned for four matches, yet there he was, playing on Saturday...

**Goofle** · 10-09-2012, 10:50 AM

Not finished the appeals process yet.

Trollheart · 10-09-2012, 06:44 PM

OK but on MOTD last week they said "that suspension will start after this game". I would have thought then that it was a done deal? Should I leave him in my FF team then for now? No more games for two weeks, but surely if there's an appeal it'll last longer than that?

**Goofle** · 10-09-2012, 08:16 PM

It was a guess on my part

No idea.

Trollheart · 10-10-2012, 06:11 AM

Suppose I should stop being lazy and go looking for my information instead of expecting others to supply it: from the Daily Express website today:

"Terry has until a week on Friday to formally announce his position, but it is anticipated that he will accept the four-game ban and £220,000 fine.

It means Terry is set to miss the league games against Tottenham, Manchester United and Swansea, and the Capital One Cup tie with United."

So I guess the Spurs match would be next week, first back after the international break?

Trollheart · 10-20-2012, 05:56 AM

... And here, yet again, Terry is not only playing but Di Matteo won't say if he's giving him the armband! When is this guy's suspension due to begin? According to last week's report, today. Now he's playing. Will he be playing next week? What the hell are the FA on??

Mojo · 10-21-2012, 06:07 AM

BBC Sport - Chris Kirkland attacked by Leeds fan at Sheffield Wednesday

I hope this despicable **** is properly dealt with. Ok, so it's not quite as serious an assault as some media outlets are making it out to be (as it's a push or a shove, he hasn't flattened him) but really that doesn't matter. fans shouldn't be on the pitch. It is in some ways forgiveable in exceptional circumstances such as celebrating a title win or avoiding relegation where fans are mainly just wanting to enjoy the day with the club but I'm still not sure it's appropriate. What potentially could have happened in the Leeds Sheff Wed game is more worrying than what actually did happen, because if fans get on the pitch where they dont belong then one day it could be a Monica Seles kind of incident and nobody ever wants to see anything like that.

Apparently Aaron Cawley was already banned from every ground in the country before he attacked Chris Kirkland yet still states that he is not a hooligan but he just wants to see Leeds play. i don't think anyone is buying that.

BBC Sport - Sunderland v Newcastle

Even though we pack around the 40,000 mark into the Stadium of Light on most weeks we hardly ever sell out. The derby sold out before I could get my act together and so don't have a ticket today which makes me sad. I am, however, still pumped and more than a little nervous.

This is bigger than Christmas Day in Tyne & Wear.

HA'WAY THE LADS!

Trollheart · 10-21-2012, 06:30 AM

Disgraceful. But if he was banned from every ground in the country, how did he get in? Don't the FA have some sort of "no fly policy" checking at the turnstiles? Or are they just assuming people who are banned will just not turn up? How do they check these things? How do they enforce them?

I mean, if the above is true (and he was banned) what's his punishment to be now, other than a criminal one? And how severe can that be? A fine? Doesn't seem like it would be likely to work, does it?

Mojo · 10-21-2012, 06:34 AM

I don't know how they police stuff like that or even if his ban was still effective but he was apparently banned four years ago. If his ban had a lifespan I would personally hope it was still in effect and if it was then that hasn't been policed well at all. Much like the fact he made it onto the pitch, attacked a goalkeeper, went back into the stands where he was still shown on camera in his seat and then somehow managed to leave the stadium without being arrested. Whats that about?

And I'm getting more excited/nervous now...

10-07-2012, 09:59 AM	#3761 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	Newcastle v Man United I'm really looking forward to this one. Welbeck, Rooney and RVP as a forward three should be interesting to see and, although I expect Newcastle to play well and work hard, I think Man United will edge it. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

10-09-2012, 10:14 AM	#3762 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	What's the story with John Terry? I thought he was banned for four matches, yet there he was, playing on Saturday... __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-09-2012, 06:44 PM	#3764 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	OK but on MOTD last week they said "that suspension will start after this game". I would have thought then that it was a done deal? Should I leave him in my FF team then for now? No more games for two weeks, but surely if there's an appeal it'll last longer than that? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-10-2012, 06:11 AM	#3766 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Suppose I should stop being lazy and go looking for my information instead of expecting others to supply it: from the Daily Express website today: "Terry has until a week on Friday to formally announce his position, but it is anticipated that he will accept the four-game ban and £220,000 fine. It means Terry is set to miss the league games against Tottenham, Manchester United and Swansea, and the Capital One Cup tie with United." So I guess the Spurs match would be next week, first back after the international break? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-20-2012, 05:56 AM	#3767 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	... And here, yet again, Terry is not only playing but Di Matteo won't say if he's giving him the armband! When is this guy's suspension due to begin? According to last week's report, today. Now he's playing. Will he be playing next week? What the hell are the FA on?? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-21-2012, 06:07 AM	#3768 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	BBC Sport - Chris Kirkland attacked by Leeds fan at Sheffield Wednesday I hope this despicable **** is properly dealt with. Ok, so it's not quite as serious an assault as some media outlets are making it out to be (as it's a push or a shove, he hasn't flattened him) but really that doesn't matter. fans shouldn't be on the pitch. It is in some ways forgiveable in exceptional circumstances such as celebrating a title win or avoiding relegation where fans are mainly just wanting to enjoy the day with the club but I'm still not sure it's appropriate. What potentially could have happened in the Leeds Sheff Wed game is more worrying than what actually did happen, because if fans get on the pitch where they dont belong then one day it could be a Monica Seles kind of incident and nobody ever wants to see anything like that. Apparently Aaron Cawley was already banned from every ground in the country before he attacked Chris Kirkland yet still states that he is not a hooligan but he just wants to see Leeds play. i don't think anyone is buying that. BBC Sport - Sunderland v Newcastle Even though we pack around the 40,000 mark into the Stadium of Light on most weeks we hardly ever sell out. The derby sold out before I could get my act together and so don't have a ticket today which makes me sad. I am, however, still pumped and more than a little nervous. This is bigger than Christmas Day in Tyne & Wear. HA'WAY THE LADS! __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

10-21-2012, 06:30 AM	#3769 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Disgraceful. But if he was banned from every ground in the country, how did he get in? Don't the FA have some sort of "no fly policy" checking at the turnstiles? Or are they just assuming people who are banned will just not turn up? How do they check these things? How do they enforce them? I mean, if the above is true (and he was banned) what's his punishment to be now, other than a criminal one? And how severe can that be? A fine? Doesn't seem like it would be likely to work, does it? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-21-2012, 06:34 AM	#3770 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	I don't know how they police stuff like that or even if his ban was still effective but he was apparently banned four years ago. If his ban had a lifespan I would personally hope it was still in effect and if it was then that hasn't been policed well at all. Much like the fact he made it onto the pitch, attacked a goalkeeper, went back into the stands where he was still shown on camera in his seat and then somehow managed to leave the stadium without being arrested. Whats that about? And I'm getting more excited/nervous now... __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust