The English Football Thread

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by Hypertension

There's some talk of Celtic moving to the Premiership soon, what with all that jazz with Rangers collapsing, etc. What do you guys think of all that?

Not such a great idea, because after one season both would be relegated.

[MoonlitSunshine]

Haha yeah. the SPL ain't half as good as it used to be.

What about AVB being fired? Chelsea to sink into mediocrity?

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine

Haha yeah. the SPL ain't half as good as it used to be.

What about AVB being fired? Chelsea to sink into mediocrity?

No, they'll get a big manager in and it will be business as usual. A couple of big jobs going at the moment, the Chelsea job and the Tottenham job should Harry go to England. Then of course there is the England job, which nobody wants as you're on a hiding to nothing there

[Goofle]

Any manager worth his salt should avoid the England job at all costs.

[MoonlitSunshine]

See, that's an attitude I don't understand. Sure, if you're going to see it from a purely professional point of view, it's probably not the most lucrative job in the world, and it won't necessarily make your career, but... if I were a football manager, and someone offered me the Ireland managing post, I wouldn't think twice about it. It's your country, and it's a proud thing to be able to say you did.

That said, if I felt strongly about the English football team, I wouldn't want the team managed by someone who didn't really want to do it, not for the money, but because they want to do their country proud. Pride, and desire to win for their country is what's been missing from England. It's a damn good team of players, and any manager with an ounce of ability to tap into that could do very well with the position.

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine

See, that's an attitude I don't understand. Sure, if you're going to see it from a purely professional point of view, it's probably not the most lucrative job in the world, and it won't necessarily make your career, but... if I were a football manager, and someone offered me the Ireland managing post, I wouldn't think twice about it. It's your country, and it's a proud thing to be able to say you did.

That said, if I felt strongly about the English football team, I wouldn't want the team managed by someone who didn't really want to do it, not for the money, but because they want to do their country proud. Pride, and desire to win for their country is what's been missing from England. It's a damn good team of players, and any manager with an ounce of ability to tap into that could do very well with the position.

But the England job is different to a lot of other countries! Most England managers are in a no win situation, the team always goes into tournaments with the team expected to go to the very latter stages, If things don't go like so, the manager is slated and usually ridiculed in one way or another and his image as a manager forever tarnished. Terry Venebles was the exception to that rule, but every England manager over the last 30 years has been like so. The press seldom take into consideration that the pool of players available to most England mangers is usually very average indeed. Does this sound like a great job to you

[Goofle]

^ That.

And as someone who doesn't have a patriotic bone in his body, you want the best man for the job, not some Stewart Pierce muggins shouting the anthem and putting out a terrible team.

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by Goofle11

^ That.

And as someone who doesn't have a patriotic bone in his body, you want the best man for the job, not some Stewart Pierce muggins shouting the anthem and putting out a terrible team.

At least get the muggins Stuart Pearce's name right

[Goofle]

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[MoonlitSunshine]

How many English managers over the last 30 years have been a) English and b) actually respected managers? Every manager that doesn't succeed gets slated, no matter what the job is.