The English Football Thread

Mojo · 11-30-2011, 03:15 PM

Kieran Richardson gave the ball away time and time again in that Norwich game. I mean he must have given away possession about 10 times in he first half, if not more. There was some poor individual performances. However we weren't playing an attacking game. Bruce had spent money on two new strikers, both were sitting on the bench. He's even started games with no strikers on the field this season, rather than play his new guys.

When he made his change, gave us more in attack, we responded well and could have turned that game around had the change come sooner and we had more time on our hands. I would just love for Steve Bruce to accept more of the blame sometimes. It would make it easier to deal with the mistakes he makes.

But hey, when Kieran was giving the ball away he was playing out of position at left-back. He was standing in for our usual left-back, right-back Phil Bardsley. We arent scoring enough goals, maybe because he's often started with over £10m worth of strikers on the bench, and left midfielder/attacking midfielder Stephane Sessegnon as a lone striker. To say I dont understand some of his decisions would be putting it mildly.

Salami · 11-30-2011, 03:49 PM

Anyone watching the United game vs Chrystal palace? I'd have gone to see it but I felt ill after cross country this evening.

Salami · 12-01-2011, 01:42 PM

Oh dear. I'd better start by saying that it was a good game! I was only watching it intermittently, so I may not have everything right! First of all, Chrystal Palace were easily the better side. They played excellently, and for all I might say, we were disgraceful. Their first goal was fantastic, I blinked a few times afterwards! Beautiful free kick, IMO. The second wasn't impressive, but shows just how far we're going to have to climb this season.
I think for singling out: I'm going to have to pick Smalling. He really wasn't up to it. He was left spinning a lot of the time, made some very silly errors and probably shouldn't have played. I think he's got a long way to go.

At the end of the day, it's only the carling cup and no one gives a sh*t!

evi1gun · 12-01-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Kieran Richardson gave the ball away time and time again in that Norwich game. I mean he must have given away possession about 10 times in he first half, if not more. There was some poor individual performances. However we weren't playing an attacking game. Bruce had spent money on two new strikers, both were sitting on the bench. He's even started games with no strikers on the field this season, rather than play his new guys.

When he made his change, gave us more in attack, we responded well and could have turned that game around had the change come sooner and we had more time on our hands. I would just love for Steve Bruce to accept more of the blame sometimes. It would make it easier to deal with the mistakes he makes.

But hey, when Kieran was giving the ball away he was playing out of position at left-back. He was standing in for our usual left-back, right-back Phil Bardsley. We arent scoring enough goals, maybe because he's often started with over £10m worth of strikers on the bench, and left midfielder/attacking midfielder Stephane Sessegnon as a lone striker. To say I dont understand some of his decisions would be putting it mildly.

We say the same about David Moyes!!!

Bulldog · 12-02-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami

And sadly, Wigan will not be in the Premier league next year. There is no possibility whatsoever of them not getting relegated.

Although it looks likelier now than it ever has done, I'm not so sure - we've been written off as relegation fodder every season we've been in the Prem, and it always worked out in the end. Whatever happens though, Martinez should stay as manager, as I couldn't really see us doing any better with a new guy at the helm.

Anyway, the big story of the day;

BBC Sport - Euro 2012: England begin tournament against France

That's France, Sweden and Ukraine in our group for Euro '12.

It's a tough group, but a doable one. It really could go either way for us. I'm just not gonna bother calling it this time - we got a dead easy group for the last world cup, and look how that turned out.

That said, I was still pulling for a spot in group A all the same.

Salami · 12-02-2011, 01:15 PM

Poor Ireland!

I don't think we would normally be good enough to beat France, but after that Domenech disaster they've struggled to sort their team out properly. I hope we can pull ourselves together for this.

**Goofle** · 12-02-2011, 01:21 PM

Literally couldn't care less about Euro 2012, or International Football. All about Arsenal.

Bulldog · 12-02-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami

Poor Ireland!

I don't think we would normally be good enough to beat France, but after that Domenech disaster they've struggled to sort their team out properly. I hope we can pull ourselves together for this.

Getting beaten by them at Wembley last year wasn't easy to take, but they're in more or less the same position as us - young, largely inexperienced team, not quite settled on a starting XI and with a lot to prove to their fans. Could be a really exciting game we play against them.

Whatever happens with England, I can't wait for the Euros. European Championships are always so much better for the neutral than world cups, and looking at this draw I don't think this tournament's going to disappoint.

Salami · 12-02-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog

Whatever happens with England, I can't wait for the Euros. European Championships are always so much better for the neutral than world cups, and looking at this draw I don't think this tournament's going to disappoint.

I agree. It could be a very close game. I shall greatly look forward to it.

evi1gun · 12-02-2011, 02:55 PM

I think it will be tough.

But I'll be looking forward to it once the football season's over and Everton have finished fourth!!!

I can see England losing the France game, beating Ukraine, but I'm not sure about the Sweden game.
I reckon it could be a draw and possibly go to gd or something.....
Is that possible....? Runners up on goal difference with 4 points ....?

11-30-2011, 03:15 PM	#3531 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	Kieran Richardson gave the ball away time and time again in that Norwich game. I mean he must have given away possession about 10 times in he first half, if not more. There was some poor individual performances. However we weren't playing an attacking game. Bruce had spent money on two new strikers, both were sitting on the bench. He's even started games with no strikers on the field this season, rather than play his new guys. When he made his change, gave us more in attack, we responded well and could have turned that game around had the change come sooner and we had more time on our hands. I would just love for Steve Bruce to accept more of the blame sometimes. It would make it easier to deal with the mistakes he makes. But hey, when Kieran was giving the ball away he was playing out of position at left-back. He was standing in for our usual left-back, right-back Phil Bardsley. We arent scoring enough goals, maybe because he's often started with over £10m worth of strikers on the bench, and left midfielder/attacking midfielder Stephane Sessegnon as a lone striker. To say I dont understand some of his decisions would be putting it mildly. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

12-02-2011, 02:55 PM	#3540 (permalink)
evi1gun Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Liverpool Posts: 57	I think it will be tough. But I'll be looking forward to it once the football season's over and Everton have finished fourth!!! I can see England losing the France game, beating Ukraine, but I'm not sure about the Sweden game. I reckon it could be a draw and possibly go to gd or something..... Is that possible....? Runners up on goal difference with 4 points ....? Last edited by evi1gun; 12-02-2011 at 05:07 PM.

11-30-2011, 03:49 PM	#3532 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	Anyone watching the United game vs Chrystal palace? I'd have gone to see it but I felt ill after cross country this evening.

12-01-2011, 01:42 PM	#3533 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	Oh dear. I'd better start by saying that it was a good game! I was only watching it intermittently, so I may not have everything right! First of all, Chrystal Palace were easily the better side. They played excellently, and for all I might say, we were disgraceful. Their first goal was fantastic, I blinked a few times afterwards! Beautiful free kick, IMO. The second wasn't impressive, but shows just how far we're going to have to climb this season. I think for singling out: I'm going to have to pick Smalling. He really wasn't up to it. He was left spinning a lot of the time, made some very silly errors and probably shouldn't have played. I think he's got a long way to go. At the end of the day, it's only the carling cup and no one gives a sh*t!

12-02-2011, 01:15 PM	#3536 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	Poor Ireland! I don't think we would normally be good enough to beat France, but after that Domenech disaster they've struggled to sort their team out properly. I hope we can pull ourselves together for this.