The English Football Thread

[jackhammer]

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

I thought that when watching it to be fair.

I was like I hope our fans never sink to this level.

Oh you will when the bottom falls out.

[right-track]

Originally Posted by jackhammer

It won't be long until we get a similar one from Man U fans

U have a few debts too!

Ours are manageable.
It's when the club can't pay the interest on money borrowed that things turn nasty.
This isn't the first time and it won't be the last.

[right-track]

Originally Posted by jackhammer

Oh you will when the bottom falls out.

It won't Lee, despite your wishes.

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Originally Posted by right-track

It won't Lee, despite your wishes.

Believe it or not it is not my wishes at all and despite the obvious Man U- Liverpool hatred it is sad to see yet another institution suffering through mis management.

I dislike Liverpool nearly as much as Man U for their egotistical inflated self important flatulence as the next guy but they are still the lifeblood of one half of the city both emotionally and commercially and I wouldn't like to see them humbled.

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Egotistical, inflated self importance?
You're talking about the 2 most successful clubs in English football!

Just for the record...

Manchester United:
Turnover £252 M
Wages: £121 M

Aston Villa:
Turnover: £75 M
Wages: £50 M

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

I don't see why Liverpool fans are bitching so much.
Their club in the past 5 years have spent more money on players than any other club save Chelsea.

Don't blame the owners, blame the crap management.

[right-track]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I don't see why Liverpool fans are bitching so much.
Their club in the past 5 years have spent more money on players than any other club save Chelsea.

Don't blame the owners, blame the crap management.

I've no sympathy for the fans.
I don't think for one single minute that the average scouser would offer United any quarter if the roles were reversed.

Lee...I don't know if you're aware of Villa's £70+ debt?
How are you going to clear that with no success on the field? People need to look a bit closer to home.
As for United's debt, this year was a record profit making year.
The debts were record breaking too, but the difference being is that the debt is being serviced.
If things go badly wrong there are still people queuing up to buy United.

[jackhammer]

Originally Posted by right-track

Egotistical, inflated self importance?
You're talking about the 2 most successful clubs in English football!

Just for the record...

Manchester United:
Turnover £252 M
Wages: £121 M

Aston Villa:
Turnover: £75 M
Wages: £50 M

I have never disputed Villa's turnover and accept that we will never be a big player in the premiership. Why do u think I haven't commented on any results this season because of off the field activities?

It doesn't mean that Man U are immune from any criticism levelled their way and that's what get's up the noses of other football fans.

It's like saying that there is only one band in the world and how dare we criticise them because of that?

We know Man U are the most successful team of the modern era but it is boring and they are not without their problems these days.

Despite making 80 mill on Ronaldo the money wasn't spent a great deal and you made a loss of 80 mill too this year.

We notice these things

[TheCunningStunt]

Originally Posted by right-track

I've no sympathy for the fans.
I don't think for one single minute that the average scouser would offer United any quarter if the roles were reversed.

Lee...I don't know if you're aware of Villa's £70+ debt?
How are you going to clear that with no success on the field? People need to look a bit closer to home.
As for United's debt, this year was a record profit making year.
The debts were record breaking too, but the difference being is that the debt is being serviced.
If things go badly wrong there are still people queuing up to buy United.

My understanding: the only reason people (potential buyers) aren't forcing the issue at the moment is because the price is too high. If things went tits up, the price would also go tits up.

Originally Posted by jackhammer

It doesn't mean that Man U are immune from any criticism levelled their way

United are constantly criticised, usually by bitter jealous fans.
Fergie time, Cockney reds etc.
I've heard it all, people don't seem to understand our success isn't like Chelsea's or (potentially City's) - we were a PTC in the years we were successful in the 90s, up until 2005...
Buying players like Ole and Cantona and the best criticism some people can come up with is ****ney reds
People also don't understand with success, it brings a global fanbase.

[jackhammer]

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

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My understanding: the only reason people (potential buyers) aren't forcing the issue at the moment is because the price is too high. If things went tits up, the price would also go tits up.




United are constantly criticised, usually by bitter jealous fans.

No it is a legitmate criticism of a team whoever they are and should be valid in any walk of life.

Man u fans just cannot handle anything levelled at their team and always roll out the jealously card when they are questioned about any aspect of their team.