Smoking weed versus knocking your fiancee unconscious

**Frownland** · 08-10-2017, 08:08 AM

Smoking weed is still immoral.

**Frownland** · 08-10-2017, 08:27 AM

Jesus drank alcohol. Alcohol is holy. Weed makes you psycho and gives you cancer.

djchameleon · 08-10-2017, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

this topic is back now that more states have legalized

Doesn't matter much with Jeff Sessions at the helm but he has one foot out the door so we will see how much longer he is around. He is staunchly against it.

**Frownland** · 08-10-2017, 11:07 AM

It's simple science bro.

Paedantic Basterd · 08-10-2017, 11:29 AM

I can't tell if Frowny is ****ing with you or not because of how seriously you're taking it.

EDIT: Also, don't be ridiculous. Cannabis has lots of medical applications, but if the science conclusively demonstrated that it "gets rid of cancer", it would be the foremost medical treatment for the disease. Cannabis does a lot to ease cancer pain, but its actual effects on tumours are not definitively known since this area of research is so new. Calm down.

**Frownland** · 08-10-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

how does weed make you psycho? doesnt alcohol make folks do that?

Marijuana induces psychosis mate.

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weed gets rid of cancer, it shrinks the tumors

Pure myth. Weed causes lung cancer do your research.

Paedantic Basterd · 08-10-2017, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Marijuana induces psychosis mate.

Pure myth. Weed causes lung cancer do your research.

Well, now, I've done my research, and both of these points need a LOT of qualification to be made accurate.

Cannabis can induce a temporary psychosis-like state, but only at very high doses; it has a bidirectional effect (as do most drugs). In addition, although cannabis has been linked to emergence of symptoms of schizophrenia in certain populations, these studies have been small and causation has not been proven--it is unknown whether those people were destined to have schizophrenia regardless of their cannabis use. As schizophrenia has a strong genetic component, it is unlikely that cannabis caused it. Further, there is budding research that suggests cannabis can help people who DO have schizophrenia control their symptoms of it.

As for the lung cancer thing, this is like 2/3rds correct. Your lungs don't like fine particles of ash building up in them, regardless of what you are smoking. You could smoke kale and you'd have a heightened risk of lung cancer.

That said, cannabis has been an effective component in treatments that have aided or reduced the severity of other kinds of cancer.

It's not as simple as "X is bad for you", because "X" can be either good or bad for you dependent on a host of factors, such as the symptoms you are looking at, the dosage, the quality/makeup of X, etc. If you ate enough carrots they could give you cancer.

Source: My university department has a lab dedicated to the study of cannabis and health with a lesser emphasis on the study of other drugs and their effects, both positive and negative (e.g., psychedelics, opioids, etc.) on health. Some of my friends and previous professors are the leading researchers in Canada in this area.

**Frownland** · 08-10-2017, 11:41 AM

Oh please a university? More like liberal drug addled maniac factory.

Paedantic Basterd · 08-10-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Oh please a university? More like liberal drug addled maniac factory.

Whether you're trying to be funny or not, there's no point continuing to talk to you, but hopefully other people in the thread will benefit from the information. With that, I'm outie.

**Frownland** · 08-10-2017, 11:48 AM

Anyway, mixing meth and marijuana makes people more prone to a psychotic episode than if they had just smoked meth alone. Marijuana is known to stop the growth of some forms of cancer, but not on a long term basis. I'm not sure about the validity of its use for seizures tbh, but I haven't researched that much.

08-10-2017, 08:08 AM	#21 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Smoking weed is still immoral. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-10-2017, 08:27 AM	#22 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Jesus drank alcohol. Alcohol is holy. Weed makes you psycho and gives you cancer. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-10-2017, 11:07 AM	#24 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It's simple science bro. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-10-2017, 11:41 AM	#28 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Oh please a university? More like liberal drug addled maniac factory. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-10-2017, 11:48 AM	#30 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Anyway, mixing meth and marijuana makes people more prone to a psychotic episode than if they had just smoked meth alone. Marijuana is known to stop the growth of some forms of cancer, but not on a long term basis. I'm not sure about the validity of its use for seizures tbh, but I haven't researched that much. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-10-2017, 11:29 AM	#25 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	I can't tell if Frowny is ****ing with you or not because of how seriously you're taking it. EDIT: Also, don't be ridiculous. Cannabis has lots of medical applications, but if the science conclusively demonstrated that it "gets rid of cancer", it would be the foremost medical treatment for the disease. Cannabis does a lot to ease cancer pain, but its actual effects on tumours are not definitively known since this area of research is so new. Calm down.