Let's talk about God for a minute, shall we?

Moss · 01-30-2014, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

And I'm perfectly justified in thinking that because you clearly don't know much at all about advanced metrics and how the truly good statisticians and educated people look at sports. There's tons of literature about why yards/attempt is one of the best stats for measuring quarterback success. You could find all of these articles very easily if you wanted to, but clearly you're resistant to it because you're either A: ignorant or B: because you're just a casual fan, WHICH IS FINE, it just means you need to realize when you're outmatched in these arguments.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 01-31-2014, 08:02 AM

The progression of this thread......

Yorke says brady had it handed to him
Ignores mobtana had best wr ever
Cites near identical stats from brady n montana
Says 3rd n 6th round is the same
Says yds/att is a crucial stat
Claims hes smarter than everyone

Mfw: nic_cage_laughing.gif

Big3 is right brady is god. Fluke plays only thing preventin him from a handful of rings

YorkeDaddy · 01-31-2014, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

Let's just agree that both Montana and Brady were put in very favorable situations. Now let's look at stats.

When you look at stats, Montana and Brady are really similar until you look at postseason stats which is where the scales tip for Montana.

Montana's playoff stats:
16-7 record, 62.67% completions, 5772 yards, 45-21 td/int ratio, 7.86 Y/A

Brady's playoff stats:
18-8 record, 62.11% completions, 6424 yards, 43-22 td/int ratio, 6.76 Y/A

I mean Montana is CLEARLY better and it's not very close. Montana demolishes him in yards/attempt (the best metric for quarterback efficiency) and has more touchdowns in less games to complement the superior td/int ratio. He edges Brady in completion percentage and would project to pass Brady in yards with the same sample size, since Brady has 3 more playoff games under his belt.

If you compare Super Bowl stats it's a joke, Montana is the best Super Bowl quarterback of all-time and there's no contest.

lol

YorkeDaddy · 01-31-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

The progression of this thread......

Yorke says brady had it handed to him **and then says Montana also had it handed to him
Ignores mobtana had best wr ever **while butthead ignores Brady had Randy Moss
Cites near identical stats from brady n montana **except even a 5 year old can see Montana's are better
Says 3rd n 6th round is the same **except butthead can't read
Says yds/att is a crucial stat **because it is
Claims hes smarter than everyone **because i am

Mfw: nic_cage_laughing.gif

Big3 is right brady is god. Fluke plays only thing preventin him from a handful of rings

have a nice day

some more articles explaining why yards/attempt matters:

http://www.docsports.com/2008/yards-...tempt-105.html
Quote from that article: "There is simply no better shortcut to assess an offense or to compare two."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...than-you-think
Quote from that article: "All of this says to me that a player who has a better yards per attempt statistic has a better chance of leading his team to victory."

http://sportsgambling.about.com/od/2...on/a/yppa2.htm
Quote from that article: "Teams with a Yards Per Pass Attempt of 7.2 or higher receive a plus for offense, while teams with a 7.0 or lower receive a minus for offense."

http://voices.yahoo.com/the-importan...329.html?cat=9
Quote from that article: "It will show that the best quarterbacks will have high YPPA as they are able to throw the ball well all season."

http://smartfootball.blogspot.com/20...r-attempt.html
Quote from that article: "Average yards per attempt is the most important stat for measuring efficiency"

http://mule.he.net/~budsport/pub/killer.php
Bud Goode, legendary football statistician who is more educated than you will ever be: "The single most meaningful independent statistic in pro football is Yards Per Pass Attempt Differential." [This is a slightly modified version of Y/A that includes how defenses do against the OPPONENT'S yards/attempt...which even further shows how important it is]

But yeah, you know more about football than Bud Goode. How dare I question the almighty butthead aka 216.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 01-31-2014, 08:40 AM

Sigh. Still ignorin context. I imagine yorke sitting in an office scowerin message boards so he can yell at ppl to tell them ppl like daunte culpepper n big ben are better than brady n brees cause of their yds/att lol

YorkeDaddy · 01-31-2014, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

Sigh. Still ignorin context. I imagine yorke sitting in an office scowerin message boards so he can yell at ppl to tell them ppl like daunte culpepper n big ben are better than brady n brees cause of their yds/att lol

Still ignoring basic facts due to an immense immature bias and ignorance. Brady's playoff stats are still utterly fantastic, and he's the second greatest postseason quarterback of all-time. However, Montana has a clear advantage and anyone intelligent enough to look at the facts with objectivity can see it and there are plenty of advanced metrics that suggest it as well.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 01-31-2014, 08:46 AM

Is culpepper better than brady??

YorkeDaddy · 01-31-2014, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

Is culpepper better than brady??

well hmmmmm lets look

well gee, tom brady is better in 99% of statistics. what a hard thing to determine. gosh what a good argument you really have a great grasp of reality because daunte culpepper is totally comparable to joe montana im very proud of you for straining that brain of yours

here let me spell it out for you as clearly as i possibly can: you can have a better y/a than somebody and not be better than them. joe montana has a way better yards per attempts, and that's already ON TOP OF Montana being slightly better in completion percentage, touchdowns, and TD/Int ratio. The yards/attempt difference makes it even considerably MORE clear and Montana is flat objectively superior in the postseason.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 01-31-2014, 08:51 AM

His yds/att is high he mudt be better

Think ya missed the point there pal lol

YorkeDaddy · 01-31-2014, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

His yds/att is high he mudt be better

Think ya missed the poibt there pal lol

I think you're a dangerously unintelligent moron that is trying to play an immature little passive aggressive game like my four year old brother does and you should probably read my edit above. If you don't understand that edit there's no hope for you.

01-31-2014, 08:02 AM	#82 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	The progression of this thread...... Yorke says brady had it handed to him Ignores mobtana had best wr ever Cites near identical stats from brady n montana Says 3rd n 6th round is the same Says yds/att is a crucial stat Claims hes smarter than everyone Mfw: nic_cage_laughing.gif Big3 is right brady is god. Fluke plays only thing preventin him from a handful of rings

01-31-2014, 08:40 AM	#85 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	Sigh. Still ignorin context. I imagine yorke sitting in an office scowerin message boards so he can yell at ppl to tell them ppl like daunte culpepper n big ben are better than brady n brees cause of their yds/att lol

01-31-2014, 08:46 AM	#87 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	Is culpepper better than brady??

01-31-2014, 08:51 AM	#89 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	His yds/att is high he mudt be better Think ya missed the point there pal lol