The European football thread

**Goofle** · 02-26-2013, 04:24 PM

Yeah, pretty much all down to fatigue. I think it's time to move him to AM though, and sign a striker for him to play off.

Insane Guest · 02-27-2013, 02:43 AM

Manchester going to hold out with a scoreless game, win with away goal.

Bayern Munich v Borussia Dortmund tomorrow, can't wait!

~~Cuthbert~~ · 03-01-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Secede

Manchester going to hold out with a scoreless game, win with away goal.

Bayern Munich v Borussia Dortmund tomorrow, can't wait!

They will win. Madrid have to score and United will just hit them on the counter.

Face · 03-05-2013, 04:01 PM

So, was it a red?

I think so. A yellow could have been given due to lack of intent, but ultimately I think a red was...justified. Flying through the air, studs up at chest height, didn't check in front of him.

14232949 · 03-05-2013, 04:03 PM

Despite what Roy Keane has to say, I have to disagree. There was no intent, only a genuine attempt to win the ball, I see it as neither particularly dangerous nor violent.
I think the referee's went for the yellow card and accidentally brought out the red. It's the only probable logic.
Game died on that decision.

**Goofle** · 03-05-2013, 04:10 PM

Should have been a yellow for me. Keane is right in a way, but only if he then says it should have been yellow. Red was insanity.

United were probably the better team for most of the game but such is football.

Michael Carrick was the best player on the park. Absolutely remarkable footballer.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 03-05-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Should have been a yellow for me. Keane is right in a way, but only if he then says it should have been yellow. Red was insanity.

Fair play mate, I'm saying the same thing on a United forum now, football fans are idiots. Thing with Keane is he was saying it was a certain red. That I disagree with. But Keane has always been honest, he's wrong but honest.

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United were probably the better team for most of the game but such is football.

Michael Carrick was the best player on the park. Absolutely remarkable footballer.

At the end of the day Welbeck had two chances to score, Van Persie had that chance in Madrid. Didn't put them away.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 03-05-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

Despite what Roy Keane has to say, I have to disagree. There was no intent, only a genuine attempt to win the ball, I see it as neither particularly dangerous nor violent.
I think the referee's went for the yellow card and accidentally brought out the red. It's the only probable logic.
Game died on that decision.

Had the Madrid player came into the contact differently and Nani had made the exact same movement but caught him differently and broke his leg, we'd all be on here saying the red was deserved.

The idea is to prevent broken legs not punish the challenges once legs have been broken.

Face · 03-05-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens

Had the Madrid player came into the contact differently and Nani had made the exact same movement but caught him differently and broke his leg, we'd all be on here saying the red was deserved.

The idea is to prevent broken legs not punish the challenges once legs have been broken.

Exactly, Nani caught him in the chest, it could just as easily have been the face. It WAS dangerous, if you have your foot that high, moving that fast, with the studs up and you haven't checked in front of you then it's YOUR responsibility because it IS dangerous.

Not a certain red, but a very fair decision to give it as such. A yellow would have been passable but soft. I think if it had happened in the last ten minutes there would be far less backlash about it, because football has a certain leeway for the affect the red would have on the result. But if oyu look at it as an isolated incident I think 80% of referees would give a red, 20% a yellow.

Welbeck was the best player for me, he actually asked questions of their defense and created space.

14232949 · 03-05-2013, 05:10 PM

Wellbeck did well in keeping Alonso quiet for the most part but was unable to do so after Nani got his matching orders (which I still maintain were wrongfully given) after that Madrid just ran rampant pushing United into an even more defensive mode.
I thought Vidic and Giggs had really good games too - although there was obviously no weak players on the park and overall was a thoroughly enjoyable game.

02-27-2013, 02:43 AM	#142 (permalink)
Insane Guest Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CA Posts: 1,322	Manchester going to hold out with a scoreless game, win with away goal. Bayern Munich v Borussia Dortmund tomorrow, can't wait!

03-05-2013, 04:01 PM	#144 (permalink)
Face Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: UK Posts: 306	So, was it a red? I think so. A yellow could have been given due to lack of intent, but ultimately I think a red was...justified. Flying through the air, studs up at chest height, didn't check in front of him.

03-05-2013, 04:03 PM	#145 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	Despite what Roy Keane has to say, I have to disagree. There was no intent, only a genuine attempt to win the ball, I see it as neither particularly dangerous nor violent. I think the referee's went for the yellow card and accidentally brought out the red. It's the only probable logic. Game died on that decision.

03-05-2013, 05:10 PM	#150 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	Wellbeck did well in keeping Alonso quiet for the most part but was unable to do so after Nani got his matching orders (which I still maintain were wrongfully given) after that Madrid just ran rampant pushing United into an even more defensive mode. I thought Vidic and Giggs had really good games too - although there was obviously no weak players on the park and overall was a thoroughly enjoyable game.