Salami

Huh. Whatever.
I had a look though and seemed to find you changing your tune from this, originally you were claiming that "dextrous activity" counted as physical activity making eSports sports, and now it's "competition".

This is true - cricket it a sport although not particularly strenuous, golf likewise. Personally, I'd barely consider golf a sport but then again...
One more quote:
OK, first of all I'd like to say that virtually all human activity requires use of our dexterity, including writing, washing, typing etc. which definitely do not count as a sport.
I think that arguing that the level of effort you put into manipulating controls on an XBox or a computer is enough to classify it as a sport is a very faulty line of reasoning because by extension basically by doing your daily routine you're permanently exercising.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you AREN'T claiming that this is legitimate exercise, because if you are then that's a very, very depressing reflection on you!

The point now is that you're definitely trying to claim that the element of a given activity being COMPETITIVE makes it a sport.

I'd like to emphatically object.

There are many aspects of life which are necessarily competitive, yet never considered sports - for instance, education. You getting the necessary grades in your A levels to go to MMU university is competitive. You are competing against other people your age for a place. One could also say that the three hour exams we sit are endurance events. However, I don't think anyone has ever postulated that education is a sport (Sport part of education maybe).
Also, there are many sports that aren't competitive. For instance, hiking, mountain biking and club cycling doesn't have to be competitive at all but are indisputably sports. I really believe that the act of exertion of some form is necessary for something to be classed as a sport - which chess by the way is not. I don't care what the Olympics think, I disagree.



I'd like to ask you a question if I may - why do you want to get eSports labelled as "sports" so much? Are you trying to justify a lifestyle choice? I'm not sure why you want to get this term on your side so much.

Rubato

Competitive eating is considered a sport, I don't see why forming a competition for brushing your teeth would be any less of a sport even on a small scale. Pfft call it what you want, just don't consider it a substitute for any athletic activity.

GuitarBizarre

I think you mean strenuous physical activity. As we discussed, athletics book definition includes forms of athleticism based on dexterity.

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Rubato

I'll take your word for it, either way when people typically ask you if you do any sports they tend to mean anything pertaining to physical fitness, responding to the question with Chess, hunting, eating hot dogs or playing Starcraft will be met with a GTFO, regardless of the words origin to avoid confusion I'd typically put such things under "games". Words have known to change meaning throughout the evolution of language, sometimes it's best to just go along with it.

GuitarBizarre

I think if someone asked you to name a sport and you said Snooker or Darts, you'd be met with a perfectly accepting response. Even Chess if I'm honest, although that might depend on the person asking. Its certainly respected as a sport by a large number of people and organisations.

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Rubato

To be fair there's still a certain air of uncertainty with Snooker and Darts, the response would be less GTFO and more "do you do any....other sports" although I do see your point.

Dr_Rez

Thank you. you are the only person who understood what I said.

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midnight rain

He disagreed with you... he said brushing your teeth could be a sport, if done competitively.

GuitarBizarre

To be fair, what you said was pretty ambiguous, because you relied on quoting a point we'd already disagreed with, and whose author was in complete, not partial, opposition with our premise, in order to make your own point which was not the same as theirs.

How else was I supposed to read it apart from you echoing Pedestrian's view?

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Zer0

Could masterbation be a sport if done competitively?

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