RIP Joe Paterno

FRED HALE SR. · 01-24-2012, 11:14 AM

I remember Joe Pa back to the Todd Blackledge days with Curt Warner in the backfield. He was an inspiring coach. Its very unfortunate that he didn't do the right thing,but his legacy as a head coach will never be forgotten. One of the true greats along with Stagg and Bryant. Its a real shame to see him pass on.

The Batlord · 01-24-2012, 11:42 AM

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I'm not surprised to hear you say that.

Like I said, he could have done more. But He's getting more heat than the other guys who should be held more accountable.

I'm sorry, who was more accountable? Is the head of the school more responsible because he's "In Charge"? Everyone who's aware that some kid is getting raped is just as accountable as the others. If you're trying to suggest otherwise, then you're a moron.

I honestly don't see what your point is. He told his superior rather than the police, which suggests to me that he was concerned with embarrassing the school, when he should have been thinking about some kid getting raped. ****ty, but at least he did SOMETHING. But when nothing else happened afterward, he should have manned up and gone to the police, but he didn't, which suggests that he was still concerned with the school (and possibly his own skin for not immediately reporting the incident to the police in the first place), rather than some kid who got raped. So, **** him.

The Batlord · 01-24-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I remember Joe Pa back to the Todd Blackledge days with Curt Warner in the backfield. He was an inspiring coach. Its very unfortunate that he didn't do the right thing,but his legacy as a head coach will never be forgotten. One of the true greats along with Stagg and Bryant. Its a real shame to see him pass on.

I will never understand how people's love of football can cause them to still have respect for someone after they've done something scummy. If Joe Douchebag from accounting gets arrested for embezzlement, nobody says, "It's a shame he did what he did, but we'll always remember him for being such a great accountant." Apparently covering for pedophiles, dog fighting, or rape don't count as good enough reasons to throw someone under the bus if they're good at football.

FRED HALE SR. · 01-24-2012, 12:17 PM

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I will never understand how people's love of football can cause them to still have respect for someone after they've done something scummy. If Joe Douchebag from accounting gets arrested for embezzlement, nobody says, "It's a shame he did what he did, but we'll always remember him for being such a great accountant." Apparently covering for pedophiles, dog fighting, or rape don't count as good enough reasons to throw someone under the bus if they're good at football.

You can choose to remember him however you want and I will do the same.

midnight rain · 01-24-2012, 12:22 PM

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I will never understand how people's love of football can cause them to still have respect for someone after they've done something scummy. If Joe Douchebag from accounting gets arrested for embezzlement, nobody says, "It's a shame he did what he did, but we'll always remember him for being such a great accountant." Apparently covering for pedophiles, dog fighting, or rape don't count as good enough reasons to throw someone under the bus if they're good at football.

If I remembered Joe Douchebag as a nice, caring family man than yes I would say that.

JoePa didn't commit a crime, just ignored a moral obligation. And I'm not defending him either, but I have no idea what was going through his head, whether he just wanted to cover the program's ass or what.

The Batlord · 01-24-2012, 12:33 PM

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If I remembered Joe Douchebag as a nice, caring family man than yes I would say that.

But they were talking about Paterno in the context of being a family man. They were talking about him as a football coach.

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JoePa didn't commit a crime, just ignored a moral obligation. And I'm not defending him either, but I have no idea what was going through his head, whether he just wanted to cover the program's ass or what.

Well, it certainly didn't seem to be, "I'm gonna do whatever it takes to make sure no more kids get sodomized."

midnight rain · 01-24-2012, 12:36 PM

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But they were talking about Paterno in the context of being a family man. They were talking about him as a football coach.

Well, it certainly didn't seem to be, "I'm gonna do whatever it takes to make sure no more kids get sodomized."

Alright maybe in that context. I don't defend someone like Michael Vick, because he hasn't exactly redeemed his actions with his character.

And I agree with you that there's no excuse for his actions, I'm simply explaining why some of us will still remember him in a positive light.

The Batlord · 01-24-2012, 12:43 PM

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And I agree with you that there's no excuse for his actions, I'm simply explaining why some of us will still remember him in a positive light.

I'm not saying he's the devil, but at some point your good intentions pale in comparison to the consequences of what you do. If he hadn't reported dog fighting for instance, I'd be pissed at him, but I wouldn't be calling for the guy's head on a platter, but no matter how good a person he is, his inaction still almost certainly resulted in another child losing their innocence.

klacc · 01-24-2012, 02:14 PM

Seems like they could've waited till he died before releasing all that information. Who knew he'd go so soon.

blastingas10 · 01-24-2012, 06:50 PM

It's not joes fault that Sandusky is a creep. He could have done more, but I don't think he should be bashed like he is because he didn't. People are acting like he is complete scum and he should only be remembered by this one thing. He did great things and many of his players will tell you about the great Affect he had on their lives. He donated millions to help build the schools library. It's possible that he was so overwhelmed about this that he didn't really know what to do. He told his boss and I believe his boss is the one who should have made further steps to do something about it. But no, let's put all the blame on Joe.

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FRED HALE SR. Neo-Maxi-Zoom-Dweebie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: So-Cal Posts: 3,752	I remember Joe Pa back to the Todd Blackledge days with Curt Warner in the backfield. He was an inspiring coach. Its very unfortunate that he didn't do the right thing,but his legacy as a head coach will never be forgotten. One of the true greats along with Stagg and Bryant. Its a real shame to see him pass on.

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	It's not joes fault that Sandusky is a creep. He could have done more, but I don't think he should be bashed like he is because he didn't. People are acting like he is complete scum and he should only be remembered by this one thing. He did great things and many of his players will tell you about the great Affect he had on their lives. He donated millions to help build the schools library. It's possible that he was so overwhelmed about this that he didn't really know what to do. He told his boss and I believe his boss is the one who should have made further steps to do something about it. But no, let's put all the blame on Joe.