the official **** the vikings thread

Phantom Limb · 10-26-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Damn, you need to take a look at this year's standings.

What was that? Standings? Oh, I thought that was supposed to help them beat Tampa. Guess not

Sparky · 10-26-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Ponder had the highest red zone efficiency from last year until 3 weeks ago. Just saying.

Anyways, the Vikings will need to split with Chicago and Green Bay to win 9 or more IMO, but the run d is nonexistent right now, and Ponder is just so conservative, he dumps the ball off into the flats or way short to Percy, which is fine if he has games like the first 4 weeks, but that's not going to happen if the D can predict what he's going to do. I'll give him this year and probably next year, because frankly he has the ability to be awesome, he's extremely athletic and he has a strong and is generally accurate.

To be honest, the short throws are the product of the system he's in. The Vikings have been running a West Coast passing scheme since Childress was HC. Granted, Favre had a ton of success in the WCO in 09-10, but it is an outdated system, even if it is a compliment to the Vikings' style of play.

Huh?
He took 6 or 7 shots downfield, and plenty more that weren't in the flat. The short throw is where his accuracy falters, he made some great completions yesterday, especially the TD fade to harvin.

It takes the average QB 4 years before they really are done developing. I got my deep ball yesterday, I'm more reassured of Ponder than that WIN over Arizona thats for sure.

We focus on wide receivers over the off season and we should be a lot stronger.

I like Bill Musgrave's play calling. Before Musgrave Harvin wasn't even on the field more than half the time, now he's about to get MVP. He can't call whatever he likes when he has a depleted receiver core and a shaky, young QB with the confidence of a Japanese school girl. This team is going to be a 2-3 year rebuilding process. Your going to turn the corner a little bit, then falter, then turn the corner some more.

Vikings football is playing as underdog, we never do good when were supposed to. I think thats why we come away with a couple upsets late in the year, but not quite enough for the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

What was that? Standings? Oh, I thought that was supposed to help them beat Tampa. Guess not

noice one brah!

Bloozcrooz · 10-26-2012, 12:50 PM

Still exciting to watch Adrian Peterson when he gets the ball in his hands. Shame our Texas native had to end up playing for the vikes but still a fan.

Sparky · 10-26-2012, 01:13 PM

What was ever the outcome of that bar brawl he had there? You remember that?

Bloozcrooz · 10-26-2012, 01:24 PM

Yeah I read up on it not to long ago but havent heard anything else about it. From what I gather he was there with his wife and in-laws. Its not like he was out looking for trouble or anything. It all started after they were asked to leave cause the bar was closing and things esculated from there. It was probally just a case of a bouncer who had seen one to many episodes of Roadhouse. Petersons always been a stand up guy and never has had any other issues on or off the field before this I know of.

(bouncer was probally pissed he played for OU and not Texas)

Forward To Death · 10-26-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

What was that? Standings? Oh, I thought that was supposed to help them beat Tampa. Guess not

And still up one on the Packers. Lawlz.

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Originally Posted by A$AP Sparky

Huh?
He took 6 or 7 shots downfield, and plenty more that weren't in the flat. The short throw is where his accuracy falters, he made some great completions yesterday, especially the TD fade to harvin.

It takes the average QB 4 years before they really are done developing. I got my deep ball yesterday, I'm more reassured of Ponder than that WIN over Arizona thats for sure.

We focus on wide receivers over the off season and we should be a lot stronger.

I like Bill Musgrave's play calling. Before Musgrave Harvin wasn't even on the field more than half the time, now he's about to get MVP. He can't call whatever he likes when he has a depleted receiver core and a shaky, young QB with the confidence of a Japanese school girl. This team is going to be a 2-3 year rebuilding process. Your going to turn the corner a little bit, then falter, then turn the corner some more.

Vikings football is playing as underdog, we never do good when were supposed to. I think thats why we come away with a couple upsets late in the year, but not quite enough for the playoffs.

noice one brah!

I just wanted to respond to the part about Ponder being bad at short throws, whoch couldn't be further from the truth. Look up his numbers during the first four weeks, when he was hitting his guys 70% of the time and never went downfield. Fewest passing plays of 25 yards says it all.

Ponder isn't struggling with his accuracy, at least not on short passes. I don't know what Vikings you've been watching for 8 weeks.

Sparky · 10-26-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

And still up one on the Packers. Lawlz.

I just wanted to respond to the part about Ponder being bad at short throws, whoch couldn't be further from the truth. Look up his numbers during the first four weeks, when he was hitting his guys 70% of the time and never went downfield. Fewest passing plays of 25 yards says it all.

Ponder isn't struggling with his accuracy, at least not on short passes. I don't know what Vikings you've been watching for 8 weeks.

Are you kidding me? Watch his picks, most of them have been short passes to kyle rudolph. One of them was a 2 yard pass. He missed Percy on a bubble screen last night and threw high on a slant to simpson. Those are no-brainer plays that ponder is still struggling with.

Forward To Death · 11-02-2012, 06:00 AM

Throwing interceptions usually has nothing to do with accuracy. It usually means you're throwing across your body, or the defender made a jump on the ball. That just tells me Ponder is a gunslinger or he's not reading the defense good enough.

He has no problem completing short passes.

Sparky · 11-02-2012, 10:52 AM

yeah sure u betcha

there's plenty more where this came from

Thom Yorke · 11-02-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by A$AP Sparky

yeah sure u betcha

there's plenty more where this came from

He had another screen to Harvin just like that last game as well.

Pretty much his whole game is handing the ball off to AP and throwing screens to Harvin. You'd think he would be able to master that by now.

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Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	Throwing interceptions usually has nothing to do with accuracy. It usually means you're throwing across your body, or the defender made a jump on the ball. That just tells me Ponder is a gunslinger or he's not reading the defense good enough. He has no problem completing short passes.

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Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	yeah sure u betcha there's plenty more where this came from