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Old 02-24-2011, 06:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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A deal will eventually get done but it'll be at the last second. Cause think about it, there's no urgency on either side right now. What incentive do they have to budge on their issues? I have a feeling this is gonna go right up to the season and then the realization that games could go unplayed and everyone would lose money will force them to compromise and get a deal done. I think there's a lot of posturing on both sides. If you have seen any of Sports Illustrated's Peter King's recent articles on Roger Goodell you can tell he is trying to portray him as this great guy and stuff. Cause both sides wanna have the public support but I feel like everyone gets irritated when millionaire's are arguing over money. I've said before that I don't know all the issues and what they are discussing but I'll always side with the players cause they are the guys who actually go out there and risk their bodies and spend the entire year busting their asses in the gym. The NBA collective bargaining agreement is also going to be up, so it should be interesting to see what happens with that as well cause I know a lot of owners are going to try to find a way to keep control of their star players because of these "superteams" forming.

I like the combine stuff but it kinda bores me after awhile. I like seeing who's stock rises and falls but watching guys continuously run sprints and catch balls gets boring for me. One of my best friends is HUGE into the combine. Him and his Dad go to the NFL Draft every year and he makes full 7 round mock drafts every year. So he's gotten me into it a little bit more. Draft day is always fun though, something to look forward to
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Old 02-24-2011, 11:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I like the combine stuff but it kinda bores me after awhile. I like seeing who's stock rises and falls but watching guys continuously run sprints and catch balls gets boring for me. One of my best friends is HUGE into the combine. Him and his Dad go to the NFL Draft every year and he makes full 7 round mock drafts every year. So he's gotten me into it a little bit more. Draft day is always fun though, something to look forward to
I usually do just the first round, then all the Bills picks. Maybe we could do a first round competition this year and all post then compare.
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I think Football, just like basketball has turned into a show. From players celebrating like its the superbowl after every single play...to players tweeting and whatever other gimmicks they all have. Its all wrong. Im not just saying this as a hockey fan, but seriously. Watch the way hockey players hold themselves on the ice, on the bench, and in interviews. Its the way it should be. All the other garbage just takes away from the focus on whats really important. The Game itself.
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I think Football, just like basketball has turned into a show. From players celebrating like its the superbowl after every single play...to players tweeting and whatever other gimmicks they all have. Its all wrong. Im not just saying this as a hockey fan, but seriously. Watch the way hockey players hold themselves on the ice, on the bench, and in interviews. Its the way it should be. All the other garbage just takes away from the focus on whats really important. The Game itself.
Agreed to a point. You have people like TO/Ocho/Deon/Favre, a very minuscule amount of players that do these things, then the media explodes on them and leaves people wanting more. It is like wrecks in Nascar, people love entertainment and reality TV these days. You give an attention whore a little attention and they want more.

Hockey is so wholesome and raw still, but it is heading in the same direction slowly. They are now starting to become more concerned with head shots, elbows etc...There is a lot more marketing going on to promote hockey. All in all, I think it is a good thing, but seeing the changes that have taken place in football throughout my life scares the shit out of me when it comes to hockey.
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Agreed to a point. You have people like TO/Ocho/Deon/Favre, a very minuscule amount of players that do these things, then the media explodes on them and leaves people wanting more. It is like wrecks in Nascar, people love entertainment and reality TV these days. You give an attention whore a little attention and they want more.

Hockey is so wholesome and raw still, but it is heading in the same direction slowly. They are now starting to become more concerned with head shots, elbows etc...There is a lot more marketing going on to promote hockey. All in all, I think it is a good thing, but seeing the changes that have taken place in football throughout my life scares the shit out of me when it comes to hockey.
Gotta blame that **** on Bettman. Fuckin guy is trying to change the sport. Hence why there are so few teams in Canada. He doesnt wanna do what works, he wants to be a hero and try to make it huge in stupid placeslike Phoenix, Florida, and Atlanta. How about Quebec City, Winnipeg, and Hamilton. 3 easy cities that would fill 18,000 seats all 41 home games. I also see where you're coming from though in the way that a few bad apples seem to be spoiling the whooole bunch.
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There is always somebody offended by player celebrations and thats good. The celebration needs to be somewhat offensive or they lose their appeal to me. I dont agree with celebrating after every single play, but if you have the talent like some big players do...show it off. How? Just how exzactly is a little dance or Ocho Cinco putting the football with a pylon taking away from the game? To me its just someone who cant handle the other team or player living up his moment to shine. It never bothered me in sports when I played as a player in anything in school. It doesnt bother me now to watch it. If you want to watch something monotonous try golf. The age old take away from the game has run its course because it doesnt imo. Have a sense of humor..nobody wants to watch a bunch of robots out their with the same amount of emotion feeling and enthuiasm as Ben Stein. I dont agree with the rules on them at all, and thank god their are some out there that despite the fines they know they are going to receive. Celebrate anyway and make the game a little more fun.



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There is always somebody offended by player celebrations and thats good. The celebration needs to be somewhat offensive or they lose their appeal to me. I dont agree with celebrating after every single play, but if you have the talent like some big players do...show it off. How? Just how exzactly is a little dance or Ocho Cinco putting the football with a pylon taking away from the game? To me its just someone who cant handle the other team or player living up his moment to shine. It never bothered me in sports when I played as a player in anything in school. It doesnt bother me now to watch it. If you want to watch something monotonous try golf. The age old take away from the game has run its course because it doesnt imo. Have a sense of humor..nobody wants to watch a bunch of robots out their with the same amount of emotion feeling and enthuiasm as Ben Stein. I dont agree with the rules on them at all, and thank god their are some out there that despite the fines they know they are going to receive. Celebrate anyway and make the game a little more fun.



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I just want you to take some time and watch a little lacrosse or hockey. Two perfect examples of sports where the players have a code on conduct they dont cross when it comes to sportmanship in celebrating. Players in football make a tackle and jump up, flexes, stand over their opponent. A lax or hockey player throws a hit and gets up and hussles to the bench or gets their ass back to the play. Theres no need for it. I like football, and Im not trying to make it sound like its a garbage sport. I just dont think that by not celebrating in an incredibly fashion, you're a robot.
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I just want you to take some time and watch a little lacrosse or hockey. Two perfect examples of sports where the players have a code on conduct they dont cross when it comes to sportmanship in celebrating. Players in football make a tackle and jump up, flexes, stand over their opponent. A lax or hockey player throws a hit and gets up and hussles to the bench or gets their ass back to the play. Theres no need for it. I like football, and Im not trying to make it sound like its a garbage sport. I just dont think that by not celebrating in an incredibly fashion, you're a robot.
Like I said im not a fan of the every little play celebrations. For instance a runningback makes a 5 yard gain on a second down and his team is down 20 points. Thats stupid and meaningless. However if it was a big time player making a big time play...like on 3rd and 15 to get the first down....and everybody in the stadium knows who the ball is going to (and so does the opposing deffense) and he still catches it and even scores. Thats raw talent at its best and is deserving of a little self praise involving a dance,sharpie autograph, or whatever. then get back to buisness as usual. No im not a fan of every down celebrations but to completley take it out of the game isnt fair either.

Ive tried watching hockey..never lacrosse. I dont really care for it, but if thats what you like then thats what you like. Im sure there is just as much effort and skill that goes into being either or as it does to play in the NFL or any other sport. It just lacks controling the tempo of the game to me. Maybe I havent watched it enough to completley understand the concept. Im sure theres strategy to it like any other sport. Just was never patient enough to wait for them to score.
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Like I said im not a fan of the every little play celebrations. For instance a runningback makes a 5 yard gain on a second down and his team is down 20 points. Thats stupid and meaningless. However if it was a big time player making a big time play...like on 3rd and 15 to get the first down....and everybody in the stadium knows who the ball is going to (and so does the opposing deffense) and he still catches it and even scores. Thats raw talent at its best and is deserving of a little self praise involving a dance,sharpie autograph, or whatever. then get back to buisness as usual. No im not a fan of every down celebrations but to completley take it out of the game isnt fair either.

Ive tried watching hockey..never lacrosse. I dont really care for it, but if thats what you like then thats what you like. Im sure there is just as much effort and skill that goes into being either or as it does to play in the NFL or any other sport. It just lacks controling the tempo of the game to me. Maybe I havent watched it enough to completley understand the concept. Im sure theres strategy to it like any other sport. Just was never patient enough to wait for them to score.
Oh man! You reminded me of completely why football just keeps losing points. There is a rulebook that we apparently just started to follow verbatim this year. It is one thing when the refs miss a call and cost your team the game, but when they make a call that clearly defies the entire game of football and takes a win away from a ****ty team, who has one all star player, and whom you know is getting the ball, and he gets the TD....Calvin Johnson. That along with the pussification has tainted my view completely. Hockey upholds that 'have at it boys' mentality that I desire.
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You know what incentive they have? What urgency? They aren't allowed to check out play or look at playbook modifications because of this. So they need to get it done as soon as possible so they can revise strategies for the upcoming season.
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