The Official World Cup 2010 Thread

[Mojo]

There will never be true consistency without instant replay.

Can NZ hold on? Its looking like a matter of time before Italy get their second but i hope they get something from this.

[TheCunningStunt]

Originally Posted by mojopinuk

There will never be true consistency without instant replay.

Can NZ hold on? Its looking like a matter of time before Italy get their second but i hope they get something from this.

I'm not for technology. Maybe for important things like was it over the line was it not type things, but it'd really slow the game down. I have the you win some you lose some philosophy.

And I hope Italy get a goal, just because of FF. Even though usually I'd be supporting the underdogs.

[Mojo]

Stopping play to consult an instant replay every time a call was questioned would certainly slow the pace of the game right down. How would you feel about a challenge system though? Where each manager only has a set amount of challenges to use during a game. That would force people to accept that mistakes may be made, leave the responsibility on the manager to only challenge the vital calls and not waste them and probably shouldnt slow the game down as much as it could if a manager could challenge any call made at any time.

[TheCunningStunt]

Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Stopping play to consult an instant replay every time a call was questioned would certainly slow the pace of the game right down. How would you feel about a challenge system though? Where each manager only has a set amount of challenges to use during a game. That would force people to accept that mistakes may be made, leave the responsibility on the manager to only challenge the vital calls and not waste them and probably shouldnt slow the game down as much as it could if a manager could challenge any call made at any time.

Better than challenging EVERY decision. Depends how many challenges they get. 3 a game wouldn't be that bad but I feel as a football sat in the stands, cheering a goal that's been given. Then the opposition manager opposing it, and it turns out he's right.. that would be sickening. I remember times where we've got a penalty one week that was contentious and then the next week we had a player sent off and we'd lose. Part and parcel of football, it's not broke. Don't try and fix it.

[Mojo]

I think it is broken though. In a 38 game season then ok, if you win the league it will be because you have been the best team. If you go down, its because you werent good enough. Neither is going to hinge completely on a bad decision from a referee. But what about the cup?

Maybe im somewhat on the fence as i think implementing a system that didnt hurt the game would be difficult but i think something has to be done.

Anyway, how are NZ doing this? They have really impressed me so far in this world cup. Defensively they looked absolutely solid today.

[Scarlett O'Hara]

Originally Posted by mojopinuk

I think it is broken though. In a 38 game season then ok, if you win the league it will be because you have been the best team. If you go down, its because you werent good enough. Neither is going to hinge completely on a bad decision from a referee. But what about the cup?

Maybe im somewhat on the fence as i think implementing a system that didnt hurt the game would be difficult but i think something has to be done.

Anyway, how are NZ doing this? They have really impressed me so far in this world cup. Defensively they looked absolutely solid today.

New Zealand just drew with world cup winners ITALY!!!! Wooooow! We might qualify?

[TheCunningStunt]

Originally Posted by mojopinuk

I think it is broken though. In a 38 game season then ok, if you win the league it will be because you have been the best team. If you go down, its because you werent good enough. Neither is going to hinge completely on a bad decision from a referee. But what about the cup?

Maybe im somewhat on the fence as i think implementing a system that didnt hurt the game would be difficult but i think something has to be done.

Anyway, how are NZ doing this? They have really impressed me so far in this world cup. Defensively they looked absolutely solid today.

I think it all evens itself out, maybe employ more refs? 1 behind each goal? Dunno how that'd work but it'd stamp out shirt pulling and it'd give them a different angle of penalty decisions. Wouldn't slow the game down and it'd make for more accurate decisions. They're linked through headsets. I think that'd work better unless there's some flawed logic there that I can't think of..

And NZ are playing on spirit. If they qualify I'll eat my slipper. I don't even own slippers so I'll go out, buy some and eat one of them. Then I will be left with one useless slipper.

[The Monkey]

The kiwis did a good game, despite the ref appearently being bought by Italy.

[OctaneHugo]

Optimistic View:
This is just our customary slow start.
Their only goal came on a clear offsides that should've been called.
We had plenty of good opportunities, but they played out-of-their-minds good on defense (keeper included).
If this World Cup is known for 2 things, 1 of them is wins being terribly difficult to come by.
The group is still open, and NZ has the leaders to face while we get the last place team.

Pessimistic View:
We were embarrassed by a team that comes from a country where football isn't even the most popular sport.
Our only goal came off a PK that was the result of a soft call.
We missed countless opportunities, and the ball handling and passing was utterly painful to watch.
A team ranked 71 places below us, and we couldn't beat them.
Going in we were criticized for being too old to win, and so far we've fallen flat on our faces.

Neutral View:
At least we're not England.

[Mojo]

Originally Posted by Vanilla

New Zealand just drew with world cup winners ITALY!!!! Wooooow! We might qualify?

I still think there might just be too much quality in your group for you to go through. You have Paraguay next who have also looked great and i cant see anything other than a Paraguay win really but it will be interesting for sure. I would love to see NZ qualify over the Italians.

Put it this way. I would have expected NZ to have 2 points less than they have right now going into the last game so you have a far, far better chance to go through than i ever would have expected.