The Official World Cup 2010 Thread

Thrice · 06-12-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Reading all these comments, England`s group is probably the easiest group in the WC, as any group that sees USA as second favourites must be weak.

To fathom just how good England are, they need quality opposition which they won`t get until the 2nd round at least.

Of the other BIG teams, France were poor and Argentina far from convincing against a devoid of ideas Nigeria side.

People read far too much into poor performances early in a tournament and its quite often the slow starters who go onto the later stages.

Ha, for a second I just thought they weren't that great, but thanks for clearing it up.

I say Netherlands group is even easier than England's. They will most likely win all their games, and draw none.

Unknown Soldier · 06-13-2010, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrice

I say Netherlands group is even easier than England's. They will most likely win all their games, and draw none.

I`d say it was even harder as both Denmark and Cameroon are better than Algeria and Slovenia. Japan are probably a similiar level to the USA though (more technical but less physical)

Unknown Soldier · 06-12-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitySlips

Though if I was Capello I'd drop Robert Green, I feel for the guy but his confidence must be shattered and he looked dead nervous in the tunnel before the game as well... either way it'll be interesting to see who's the keeper for their next game.

All of England`s goalkeepers look nervous, so he hasn`t got much of a choice..........its the team`s achilles heel. We`ve not had a world class keeper since Seaman and even he played a howler against Brazil in his final WC.

OctaneHugo · 06-12-2010, 07:54 PM

They were way too reliant on Howard. If they try to go through the tournament relying on 3 second-half chances (after getting stonewalled in the first) and their keeper playing like the best in the world, they won't go far.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-12-2010, 08:05 PM

England played better in that game than when they played Mexico & Japan, and they won those games.

It was a disappointing result but it's not the end of the world. Lots of the good teams start off slow and gradually improve. And judging from their last few games England are doing that. I don't think the USA ever really looked like winning that game.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-12-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

England played better in that game than when they played Mexico & Japan, and they won those games.

It was a disappointing result but it's not the end of the world. Lots of the good teams start off slow and gradually improve. And judging from their last few games England are doing that. I don't think the USA ever really looked like winning that game.

I would agree with this. USA have done well so far, but England will get further for sure.

TheBig3 · 06-12-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

I would agree with this. USA have done well so far, but England will get further for sure.

Well see. If America can turn up the heat in the first 15 for a change I think we'll do much better than expected.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-12-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Well see. If America can turn up the heat in the first 15 for a change I think we'll do much better than expected.

There is a possibility America could go through to at least quarters as they're a good team, but it all depends on whether they can defend themselves to get there.

TheBig3 · 06-12-2010, 11:45 PM

If Dempsey is the long-shot (odds wise) taker they make him out to be, I think it will be a deciding factor. Its hard to prep for loose cannons and its clearly making a difference thus far.

right-track · 06-13-2010, 05:02 AM

I tend to reflect on a match on a general basis. It's not often I pay much interest in stats.
Overall, I thought the U.S.A. were lucky to get their point.
In some part due to their lack of penetration along with England's underachievement.
It's interesting to see how different people view the same game.
I think what is telling, is that most American's are pleased with the point and most England fans see it as a bit of a disaster and a missed opportunity.
And I think this is a reflection of how the match panned out.

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,626	England played better in that game than when they played Mexico & Japan, and they won those games. It was a disappointing result but it's not the end of the world. Lots of the good teams start off slow and gradually improve. And judging from their last few games England are doing that. I don't think the USA ever really looked like winning that game. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,246	If Dempsey is the long-shot (odds wise) taker they make him out to be, I think it will be a deciding factor. Its hard to prep for loose cannons and its clearly making a difference thus far. __________________ I've moved to a new address

06-13-2010, 05:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,769	I tend to reflect on a match on a general basis. It's not often I pay much interest in stats. Overall, I thought the U.S.A. were lucky to get their point. In some part due to their lack of penetration along with England's underachievement. It's interesting to see how different people view the same game. I think what is telling, is that most American's are pleased with the point and most England fans see it as a bit of a disaster and a missed opportunity. And I think this is a reflection of how the match panned out.