Lingerie Football League (American Football)

VEGANGELICA · 10-27-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrice

I didn't think broads playing football would cause such a fuss. I believe that 95% of the folk in this thread have not even sat down and checked this out, yet still run their mouths about the exploitation of the sexual appeal of woman. Well, woman figured out just by having tits they can make money. It is surprisingly good. Aside from the sexual appeal, these girls go at it, and hard. Check out "tank" I think she plays for Cleveland. She is a modern day female Jerome The Bus Bettis.

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Oh, I'm one of the 5% who checked out the website and videos about the Lingerie League, Thrice. I documentated how the viewers' taste for scantily clad women leads to unnecessary injuries of the women, which is one reason I find the Lingerie League degrading.

There's nothing wrong with women playing football. I don't find anything bad about the International Women's Football League (IWFL), where they play contact American football with regular uniforms and teams...other than my usual complaints about American football, which I dislike because it has unnecessary collisions and tackling that hurt people.

I'm surprised you thought your thread topic wouldn't cause a fuss. You knew it was only a matter of time until I noticed it!

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

Plus, the mention of this being legit dangerous is another issue. I mean, I don't know, I don't find anything sexually appealing about the concept. I mean, for me the problem isn't objectifying it's indirectness.

I already think the whole "beer and football... yeah, cause I'm a dude... man power!" attitude is silly enough but having to adhere to this whole zombie-clone "football and tits... that's like the man power dream! Go dude stuff!" is just another means for people trying to sell you things to exploit your insecurities.

I see the Lingerie League as a weird combination of sexuality and violence in which some people put themselves at risk, and are encouraged to do so, to get others off. Sex often seems to be about people using others for their own pleasure without caring for them, and I don't like that or social activities like the Lingerie League that glorify this dynamic.

I also agree with you that the whole beer and football-loving plus lets-see-how-many-women-I-can-oogle stereotypical image that men seem to be pressed into is silly...as if beer and football and womanizing make someone a man. However, some men (and women) really do seem to relish the combination.

Do you think they're trying to make up for their insecurities ("I'm weak! I'm not a man!") or do you think they are just genuinely giving in to their urges ("Sex! Violence! Yee-haw!")?

I hadn't thought of the indirectness of the sexuality in the Lingerie League as being an issue, mostly because when I watch the promo videos the sexuality seems pretty darn direct.

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

Eh, I'm just one of those men I guess who finds football dreadfully boring. I mean, maybe it's a natural outlet for that inner violence, but I think I found better ones.

I'd like to see a general curbing of the consumerist narcissism that forces 14 year old girls to starve themselves to death for acceptance, but what are you going to do?

Yet, seeming the general consensus is that it's not a particularly enticing activity watching women mutilate each other half naked. What I'm saying though has nothing to do with liking football or not liking football. It's the fact this is a random pasting together of two "man" things in order to appeal to the "poker buddy" crowd.

Then again, I like ranting and creating philosophical arguments from concepts that were obviously not intended to create them. Personal vice, I think.

Making philosophical arguments about some social activity isn't a personal vice at all, Skaligojurah...it's called sociology!

I agree football and contact sports are an outlet for inner violence...and I don't feel there is anything wrong with inner violence (I've got my share)...but I DO feel it is wrong when people hurt themselves or others physically as they let out their inner violence.

And, frankly, I don't know if football really lets out violence--I think it just exacerbates and strengthens it. The feeling that I get from this thread is that there are quite a few people who *do* find it enticing to watch women mutilate each other half naked. Their response isn't much different from the accounts I hear of people cheering when a man in football gets bashed to the ground and is writhing in pain.

As with your example of the 14-year-olds girls encouraged to get super skinny for acceptance, I also don't like the Lingerie League because in it I feel the people are debasing themselves for acceptance and approval by others. I can feel this when I watch the bikini-clad women playing...a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that these Lingerie League women, for whatever social reasons, are willing to skin themselves up and pound on each other ultimately for the sake of the viewers.

If they did this for free, just for fun, with no one watching and paying, then I'd have no problem with the Lingerie League. But I would wonder why they don't play football with uniforms on to actually help protect themselves from the abrasions I showed earlier.

And back to Urban's example of women being scantily clad in bars. I have no problem with people dressing up sexily if they want to. But if people in the bar then encouraged a woman to be dragged across the rough wooden floor on her exposed midriff, and she, eager to please and get paid for it, agreed...you BET I'd have a problem with that.