dac

Also you said that they've been blown out of almost every BCS game since then... they're 2-2.

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thegoldlaw

Hes dead to me.. I saw Miami play vs Vtech the game before that NC game. They looked soo good, and then complete **** in the National Championship game.

Ohio State Notre Dame 34-20
Ohio State Oklahoma State 33-7
Ohio State Kansas State 35-28
Ohio State Miami (FL) 31-24 (2OT)

Even though I think they robbed Miami i'll give them props for that win. But ND, OS and KS.. all kind of bad teams. LSU and Florida I considered good teams. And losing Ginn for one of those games def hurt.

ProggyMan

Yeh, and Ohio State is a legit game.

Yet again, what they did last season doesn't matter. If you want to bring up ****ty calls, what about Vince Young's pitch back while kneeling down? How is Virginia a junk team? Stop being a bitch about Ohio State, you clearly have no rational argument for them not being a legit game.

Well yeh, The Pac-10 played the toughest OOC in the country, and were competitive in most of the games. I've admitted that they're down this year and I never said USC had been more impressive than Texas...Ultimately they still have 4 very solid teams that could all very well be ranked in the final polls.

@dac: Yes it is, it was essentially an incredibly unlucky weekend with bad matchups and a few magical upsets. Not excusing it, but it's not as bad as you would have it.

thegoldlaw

I would love to see USC vs Ohio St again this year. Boeckman I never liked and atleast with pryor if the play completely breaks down he can run. Such luxury wasnt there with Boeckman. Also not having their #1 player in Wells really hurt their chances.

All I'm trying to say is, there are 2 Catogories this year, Alabama, Florida, oklahoma and texas and then the rest of the league.

Whats funny about this is I'm not really an SEC or Big 12 guy, they just seem to be the best conference this year. If I had it my way I'd be talking about the ACC. None of the ACC teams want to show up, I went to BC vs Georgia tech and by stats Gtech killed them, but if you acturally watched the game BC dominated except for a few blown plays. My all time favorite team is Miami who I saw play Virgina Tech the game before their national championship with ohio st. Since then I've loved miami, its too bad they are on year 6 of rebuilding. Then you have brandon tate which for some reason has gotten no love this year. Hes as good as Percy Harvin or Tedd Ginn jr from a couple of years ago.

dac

That's because they played the OSU Defense... That D was unbelievable

That was a very good Kansas State team, and that LSU game was a good game. OSU controlled the first half.

I agree with you though. Texas, Oklahoma, Florida and Alabama are in a league of their own. USC is in that second tier with teams like Texas Tech and Penn State. They just haven't shown me anything to make me think they're as good as the top 4.

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ProggyMan

Did you watch the game? Complete domination in every facet of the game, USC dominated the line of scrimmage, don't tell me one RB would have changed the outcome.

Florida hasn't beaten any more good teams than USC. Neither has the Tide. Hell, neither has Oklahoma/Texas. Ultimately you're just speculating, nobody has anyway of knowing who's better. I don't claim to know either, I'm just pointing out that USC has proved itself again and again this year and in previous years, they're easily one of the 2 most talented teams in the country, they have more wins over good teams than Bama and the same amount as Texas and Florida. Only Oklahoma has more.

I think Miami has more SO/FR starters than anyone else.

and Bama has? By doing what, beating Georgia?

dac

Good point, good point. I just feel that Alabama went out and took care of business every week and if it weren't for a spectacular second half by Tebow they'd be playing for a national championship.

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ProggyMan

Yeh, but they've lost the same amount of games and beaten less impressive opponents. I think people just blindly assume the SEC is going to be dominant top to bottom and that's just not true this year.

thegoldlaw

For me bama went undefeated in the regular season and completely destroyed Georiga. I am not saying Georgia is a great team, but everything around that game said Alabama was going to get crushed. Also Nick Saban is a proven winner in college football so you have to assume a team that goes from sub-par to being one of the best in the SEC is legit.

With this said florida has beaten someone impressive, alabama. Doesn't hurt to have 2 SEC victories over 2x 7-5 teams and an OOC victory over an 8-4 team. Florida has at its helm a heisman winner and experience winning in the national championship game. If nothing else you have to respect his experience and record that reflects it.

On the other hand you has Mark Sanchez's 2800 yards, 30 tds and 10 ints. Purely from a stat standpoint hes really letting down USC. You had lienart his final year throwing for 3800 yards,28 tds with 8 picks. The yards suggest sanchez is a "manager" of the game rather then a QB. His highest yards in a game was 322, followed by a steep drop off of 269 to a bad UCLA team.

The reason why I mention the low yards is because if you can stop the run and gain a 1-2 td lead I dont believe sanchez can bring you back. Its what happened in the Oregon St game. A team like texas and Oklahoma has huge defensive players that I believe would shut down the run and force Sanchez too win, Which I have yet to see any signs hes can.

ProggyMan

Bull****, double standards.

USC has more victories over bowl teams, yet again double standards.

Er, why does USC have to be a high octane offensive team. They're extremely balanced, they don't need him to put up huge numbers.

USC has arguably the best line in CFB, I don't see any defense shutting down the run against them.