The BCS (country, quote, performance)

thegoldlaw · 12-09-2008, 08:06 PM

Ok this year Ohio St hasnt beaten anyone. K thx

outscored 48-9 in those loses too.. OUCH

ProggyMan · 12-09-2008, 08:15 PM

That looks pretty but they got blown out by USC (The no. 5 team) and narrowly lost to Penn St., the number 7 team. They destroyed several solid, 9/10 win teams, not something to be ignored. But let's not get sidetracked. They lost a close game to Penn St. and got blown out by USC. You say USC hasn't played anybody then use Ohio St.'s loss to them to make a point about how they're not a good team.

thegoldlaw · 12-10-2008, 01:09 AM

As I mentioned before if you schedule 2 big teams and then have a fluff schedule you can make the Nation Championship. The problem is Ohio St dropped both their big games. Ohio St right now is a 2 Lost team lets see who should be ranked higher then them (In no order). Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech,Florida, Alabama,Utah, Boise St,USC, Penn St. That right there is 9 teams that are above Ohio St and there is only 10 bids for the BCS games. 2 Of which are auto-bids to the ACC/Big East, so with that said Ohio St should NOT be playing in any BCS game rather a lower bowl.

And with USC they may schedule 1 hard game on their schedule and have all season to circle the game and get all hyped up for it. Never have I've seen USC play a hard schedule except maybe the last game of the season. But USC themself has proven any team is able to circle a single game in the season and give 110% and win that game. See USC vs UCLA, Oregon, Oregon St and STANFORD etc over the past couple of years.

This is how I'd ideally have the bowl games this year:

Texas Vs Florida
Oklahoma vs Alabama
Texas Tech vs USC
Penn St Vs Boise
Utah Vs Cinny

Son of JayJamJah · 12-10-2008, 01:17 AM

The truth is without a layoff it's just meaningless speculation.

OSU was without it's best player, it was on the road and several calls went against them.

If Ole Miss, Iowa and Oregon State played each other anyone of the three could beat any of the other two.

Those are of course the teams Florida, Penn State and USC lost to respectively.

Saying anyone of those one loss teams is less or more deserving then Alabama, Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma which all lost to fellow one loss teams.

Then you got Boise State and Utah undefeated, how can you deny them a shot?

Even my proposed system leaves one out (Texas Tech) but they did get beat by 50 so how can they whine?

That Playoff would be amazing...

Imagine Week One Four games featuring those eight teams squaring off...

Week Two: Florida vs. Oklahoma and Alabama vs. Texas

Played in the Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl!!!

Then the winners square off the next week in the National title game.

thegoldlaw · 12-10-2008, 01:25 AM

The BCS is a hype machine, without the BCS the NFL would dominate football in america simply due to FFL. I remember the NFL before ffl and alot of people around me had no clue who any players were beyond their team and their respective division. The BCS like FFL makes people aware of the other teams around them and the players for those teams. This awareness means more money and more hype for the colleges and advertisements.

Son of JayJamJah · 12-10-2008, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

As I mentioned before if you schedule 2 big teams and then have a fluff schedule you can make the Nation Championship. The problem is Ohio St dropped both their big games. Ohio St right now is a 2 Lost team lets see who should be ranked higher then them (In no order). Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech,Florida, Alabama,Utah, Boise St,USC, Penn St. That right there is 9 teams that are above Ohio St and there is only 10 bids for the BCS games. 2 Of which are auto-bids to the ACC/Big East, so with that said Ohio St should NOT be playing in any BCS game rather a lower bowl.

And with USC they may schedule 1 hard game on their schedule and have all season to circle the game and get all hyped up for it. Never have I've seen USC play a hard schedule except maybe the last game of the season. But USC themself has proven any team is able to circle a single game in the season and give 110% and win that game. See USC vs UCLA, Oregon, Oregon St and STANFORD etc over the past couple of years.

This is how I'd ideally have the bowl games this year:

Texas Vs Florida
Oklahoma vs Alabama
Texas Tech vs USC
Penn St Vs Boise
Utah Vs Cinny

You're leaving Va Tech out...

I agree that Ohio State is not worthy of a BCS bid, but by the rules they are the best available team.

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

The BCS is a hype machine, without the BCS the NFL would dominate football in america simply due to FFL. I remember the NFL before ffl and alot of people around me had no clue who any players were beyond their team and their respective division. The BCS like FFL makes people aware of the other teams around them and the players for those teams. This awareness means more money and more hype for the colleges and advertisements.

The BCS is best for TV...that's where the money is. Advertising and network contracts. The BCS is just a glorified bowl system with the addition of a "#1 vs. #2" title game added.

ProggyMan · 12-10-2008, 01:33 AM

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As I mentioned before if you schedule 2 big teams and then have a fluff schedule you can make the Nation Championship. The problem is Ohio St dropped both their big games. Ohio St right now is a 2 Lost team lets see who should be ranked higher then them (In no order). Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech,Florida, Alabama,Utah, Boise St,USC, Penn St. That right there is 9 teams that are above Ohio St and there is only 10 bids for the BCS games. 2 Of which are auto-bids to the ACC/Big East, so with that said Ohio St should NOT be playing in any BCS game rather a lower bowl.

What are you trying to say? Texas Tech can't go to a BCS bowl game, the Big 12 already has two teams in. I never said OSU deserved a BCS bowl anyways.

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And with USC they may schedule 1 hard game on their schedule and have all season to circle the game and get all hyped up for it. Never have I've seen USC play a hard schedule except maybe the last game of the season. But USC themself has proven any team is able to circle a single game in the season and give 110% and win that game. See USC vs UCLA, Oregon, Oregon St and STANFORD etc over the past couple of years.

Go look at the teams they've played and you'll see this is bull****. They have played the toughest OOC this decade. Their performance in bowl games makes your point irrelevant anyways. Especially seeing as you didn't even respond to half my argument.

thegoldlaw · 12-10-2008, 01:41 AM

Thats awesome.. the Pac 10 is BAD so I really would hope USC's OOC was the toughest. Its 1 game out of their 12-13 game schedule. In the big 12 the top 3 teams have played 3 harder games in conference then USC this year has played OOC.

And haven't you preached the whole time "It doesnt matter what happened last year?"

Son of JayJamJah · 12-10-2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

Thats awesome.. the Pac 10 is BAD so I really would hope USC's OOC was the toughest. Its 1 game out of their 12-13 game schedule. In the big 12 the top 3 teams have played 3 harder games in conference then USC this year has played OOC.

And haven't you preached the whole time "It doesnt matter what happened last year?"

The Big12(killedtheraindog) looks pretty weak to me, No defense anywhere...Texas Tech is a team that plays nobody outside of conference.

thegoldlaw · 12-10-2008, 02:03 AM

Its hard when you have 3 Qbs who easily could be a starter on half the NFL teams. Big 12's offense is far superior to any other conference. Doesnt hurt 4 out of the 5 heisman people are Big 12.

12-09-2008, 08:06 PM	#31 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	Ok this year Ohio St hasnt beaten anyone. K thx outscored 48-9 in those loses too.. OUCH

12-09-2008, 08:15 PM	#32 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	That looks pretty but they got blown out by USC (The no. 5 team) and narrowly lost to Penn St., the number 7 team. They destroyed several solid, 9/10 win teams, not something to be ignored. But let's not get sidetracked. They lost a close game to Penn St. and got blown out by USC. You say USC hasn't played anybody then use Ohio St.'s loss to them to make a point about how they're not a good team.

12-10-2008, 01:09 AM	#33 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	As I mentioned before if you schedule 2 big teams and then have a fluff schedule you can make the Nation Championship. The problem is Ohio St dropped both their big games. Ohio St right now is a 2 Lost team lets see who should be ranked higher then them (In no order). Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech,Florida, Alabama,Utah, Boise St,USC, Penn St. That right there is 9 teams that are above Ohio St and there is only 10 bids for the BCS games. 2 Of which are auto-bids to the ACC/Big East, so with that said Ohio St should NOT be playing in any BCS game rather a lower bowl. And with USC they may schedule 1 hard game on their schedule and have all season to circle the game and get all hyped up for it. Never have I've seen USC play a hard schedule except maybe the last game of the season. But USC themself has proven any team is able to circle a single game in the season and give 110% and win that game. See USC vs UCLA, Oregon, Oregon St and STANFORD etc over the past couple of years. This is how I'd ideally have the bowl games this year: Texas Vs Florida Oklahoma vs Alabama Texas Tech vs USC Penn St Vs Boise Utah Vs Cinny

12-10-2008, 01:25 AM	#35 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	The BCS is a hype machine, without the BCS the NFL would dominate football in america simply due to FFL. I remember the NFL before ffl and alot of people around me had no clue who any players were beyond their team and their respective division. The BCS like FFL makes people aware of the other teams around them and the players for those teams. This awareness means more money and more hype for the colleges and advertisements.

12-10-2008, 01:41 AM	#38 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	Thats awesome.. the Pac 10 is BAD so I really would hope USC's OOC was the toughest. Its 1 game out of their 12-13 game schedule. In the big 12 the top 3 teams have played 3 harder games in conference then USC this year has played OOC. And haven't you preached the whole time "It doesnt matter what happened last year?"

12-10-2008, 02:03 AM	#40 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	Its hard when you have 3 Qbs who easily could be a starter on half the NFL teams. Big 12's offense is far superior to any other conference. Doesnt hurt 4 out of the 5 heisman people are Big 12.