The American Football Thread

[butthead aka 216]

Anyone followin this dolphins debacle. God I hate the media. Incognito has always been a douche and he mightve gone a little far with the money stuff but I really think hes gettin unfairly buried here by ppl who dint understand sports culture or locker room culture

[djchameleon]

It doesn't matter if they don't understand locker room culture. It still had profound effects on one of the players so much so that he had to admit himself to a mental institution. So squash all that noise. Ain't nobody trying to hear you defend that cunt on top of all the other football players as well.

[butthead aka 216]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

It doesn't matter if they don't understand locker room culture. It still had profound effects on one of the players so much so that he had to admit himself to a mental institution. So squash all that noise. Ain't nobody trying to hear you defend that cunt on top of all the other football players as well.

You're one of those ppl who don't get the culture. It does matter. You don't just walk into an office or group of friends or anywhere and say 'I don't like the culture so everyone participatin is evil'. Incognito is a known douche for sure. But it sounds like martin was overly sensitive. Its the ultimate tough guy atmosphere and maybe he's not cut out for it. I think incognito will play before martin will. Just seems way overblown to me when its happened for decadesand nobody cared

[djchameleon]

I know the culture. Same **** happens in the military. The main issue with this story that makes it different is that the dude getting pranked/hazed couldn't handle it and needed to check himself into a ward. When someone gets mentally scarred from it. It is too far.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

You're one of those ppl who don't get the culture. It does matter. You don't just walk into an office or group of friends or anywhere and say 'I don't like the culture so everyone participatin is evil'. Incognito is a known douche for sure. But it sounds like martin was overly sensitive. Its the ultimate tough guy atmosphere and maybe he's not cut out for it. I think incognito will play before martin will. Just seems way overblown to me when its happened for decadesand nobody cared

His sensitivity doesn't even play into this. You can't do what Incognito did and not expect consequences. The problem with the culture argument is that Martin was reportedly standing his ground against Incognito on a daily basis, but what Incognito was doing with the voicemails, texts, etc. was harassment. Martin's toughness shouldn't be called into question, because it undermines the fact that he's been playing offensive line for several years.

Incognito's just a typical tough guy, and if Martin wants to isolate himself from everyone else, then that's his personality. I think it's ****ing ridiculous that Coach Phillbin actually told guys to get him out of his shell, like he knows how to properly manipulate someone's psyche into being a better teammate. He should be fired and banned from coaching if he perpetuated this whole thing and looked the other way like it's starting to seem.

[butthead aka 216]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

I know the culture. Same **** happens in the military. The main issue with this story that makes it different is that the dude getting pranked/hazed couldn't handle it and needed to check himself into a ward. When someone gets mentally scarred from it. It is too far.

youve said similar things in the past. i wonder where you draw the line on anything. what if someone has a mental breakdown because of a curse word? or because of a middle finger??

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

His sensitivity doesn't even play into this. You can't do what Incognito did and not expect consequences. The problem with the culture argument is that Martin was reportedly standing his ground against Incognito on a daily basis, but what Incognito was doing with the voicemails, texts, etc. was harassment. Martin's toughness shouldn't be called into question, because it undermines the fact that he's been playing offensive line for several years.

Incognito's just a typical tough guy, and if Martin wants to isolate himself from everyone else, then that's his personality. I think it's ****ing ridiculous that Coach Phillbin actually told guys to get him out of his shell, like he knows how to properly manipulate someone's psyche into being a better teammate. He should be fired and banned from coaching if he perpetuated this whole thing and looked the other way like it's starting to seem.

what lol of course it plays into this. dafuq you talkin bout. martin is/was soft, hes always been that way compared to other nfl players cause that's ust his personality. from everything ive read or seen, all the dolphins support incognito. tannehill even said incognito and martin were like best friends. i think the voicemail and stuff might be taken out of context big time. i think the only thing incognito did wrong was probably the 15K for the vegas trip thing. most of it just sounds overblown and a witchhunt

your last paragraph and part I bolded....dude, that's literally his job. his job is to manipulate psyche's to make ppl the best they can be. your suggestion is completely absurd in every way. can already tell you're one of the dodos who prob wanted paterno burned at the stake too

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

youve said similar things in the past. i wonder where you draw the line on anything. what if someone has a mental breakdown because of a curse word? or because of a middle finger??

I shouldn't even response to this because you obviously know the difference between a simple curse word and a middle finger vs. being harassed constantly in numerous different ways.

Do you need me to look up the word bullying for you and copy/paste the definition?

[butthead aka 216]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

I shouldn't even response to this because you obviously know the difference between a simple curse word and a middle finger vs. being harassed constantly in numerous different ways.

Do you need me to look up the word bullying for you and copy/paste the definition?

its a very legit question. youre the guy who deems somethin wrong because 1 out of thousands of ppl is offended

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

its a very legit question. youre the guy who deems somethin wrong because 1 out of thousands of ppl is offended

nope. thanks a lot for trying though

[butthead aka 216]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

nope. thanks a lot for trying though

oh it wasnt a question lol