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Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

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[Exo]

You can respond to this or not but I want to get my last two cents in before we call it a day.

I could honestly respond to any one of your points in your last big response on Kaepernick but I'll just go with two of them. I'm not going to even go into the whole "he's lucky" thing. That's just unbelievably retarded.

1. What is the difference whether or not his touchdown passes came in the redzone? Seriously? It's not a good touchdown pass unless it's in the redzone? I don't understand what you're trying to say with that one.

2. You keep mentioning the fact that he hasn't won any playoff games or superbowls. Okay, I agree that winning playoff games are very important and that winning a superbowl is even more so. Do you know how many starting quarterbacks have won a superbowl? Six. Brady, Brees, Rogers, Mannings, and Big Ben. Let's see who has won playoff games. Actually lets' name a starting quarterback that won a game last year. TJ Yates. You see? It isn't so black and white about what a team does in the playoffs. Rex Grossman brought a team to the superbowl. I wouldn't call Yates or Grossman impressive. Obviously kaep hasn't has the chance to make it to the playoffs yet. Neither has Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, and RG3. Are they not impressive to you?

That's actually a question I'd like answered. Do you find those three impressive?

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by Exoskeletal

You can respond to this or not but I want to get my last two cents in before we call it a day.

I could honestly respond to any one of your points in your last big response on Kaepernick but I'll just go with two of them. I'm not going to even go into the whole "he's lucky" thing. That's just unbelievably retarded.

1. What is the difference whether or not his touchdown passes came in the redzone? Seriously? It's not a good touchdown pass unless it's in the redzone? I don't understand what you're trying to say with that one.

2. You keep mentioning the fact that he hasn't won any playoff games or superbowls. Okay, I agree that winning playoff games are very important and that winning a superbowl is even more so. Do you know how many starting quarterbacks have won a superbowl? Six. Brady, Brees, Rogers, Mannings, and Big Ben. Let's see who has won playoff games. Actually lets' name a starting quarterback that won a game last year. TJ Yates. You see? It isn't so black and white about what a team does in the playoffs. Rex Grossman brought a team to the superbowl. I wouldn't call Yates or Grossman impressive. Obviously kaep hasn't has the chance to make it to the playoffs yet. Neither has Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, and RG3. Are they not impressive to you?

That's actually a question I'd like answered. Do you find those three impressive?

Because I'm bored I'll humor you, and also because this is becoming amusing to me. This whole argument started because you didn't like me calling him Kaeperscratch yes? After stating initially the main reason of why I didn't like the guy you still seemed hungary for a deeper more meaningful reason. Do you know that I dont like some people simply because their ugly? I dont need anymore reason than that not to like someone, but that just seems unfathomable to some I guess. So, being as I actually wasn't impressed with Sunday nights game I figured I may as well state why I'm not cause at the moment I have nothing better going on. So I did, and its still a puzzling mystery because my reasons just aren't adding up to Kaeperscratch fans. What you all fail to realise is I dont have on any rose colored glasses. I'm sure when some people watch this guy play they see angel wings, and a halo above this guys head throwing a golden football as Gabriel sounds the trumpet. What is it with this guy anyway? Out of all the players in the league, and all the discussons you all pick Colin freakin Kaeperscratch to make such a fuss about? Im intrigued as to why actually cause I'm just not seeing it, and maybe its just utter stubborness at this point. Is Andrew Luck impressive to me..yes he is I like Luck. Is RG3 impressive to me....yeah I like him too. Is Colin Kaeperscratch impressive? After all of this I'll probaly never find anything he does impressive short of curing cancer just on principal alone. Andrew Luck drafted to the Colts who were suppose to be in a rebuilding year. What he's done yes impressive. Rg3 drafted to the Redskins, and I dont think I need an elaborate on what kind of team they were last year. So what he's done for them this year impressive. Now I know this is where your going to say, but they haven't won a playoff game or super bowl right? So how do you find them impressive and not Kap? Right? Again, with the coaching staff, and squad the niners have put together anything short of at least one playoff win is a wasted season. Babe Laughenberg should be able to win regular season games with the amount of talent, and coaching that the niners have aquired. Luck or Rg3 having the kind of year that they are having on a team as well built as the niners wouldn't be that impressive either. If you can just find a way to not lose the game for SanFran than you can just about bet the rest of the team is good enough to pick up your slack. I'm sorry if that doesn't make sense to you or anyone else, and really this is just so to give you some logical reason why I choose not to like him. I already had all the reason I was ever going to need.

[Exo]

Well that being said and just to end this "discussion" I'm just going to conclude that you're incredibly stubborn and that you wouldn't admit defeat if you had a gun to your head. I'll just be over here with the logical people and you can be over there hating apples because they're red and calling toyotas bad cars cause they're made by Asians.

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by Exoskeletal

Well that being said and just to end this "discussion" I'm just going to conclude that you're incredibly stubborn and that you wouldn't admit defeat if you had a gun to your head. I'll just be over here with the logical people and you can be over there hating apples because they're red and calling toyotas bad cars cause they're made by Asians.

If it makes you feel any better I actually found this last post of yours pretty funny.

[Bloozcrooz]

If you want to start a different discussion. What do you think about Sundays Seahawks vs Niners game? Care to speculate on that?

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I'm unbelievably stoked for this Vikings game, but I know that if we lose I'll be miserable for a few days at least, because there's no way in hell we get the spot without winning out. Also, Peterson's chase for 2,105 is interesting. If he runs over the Texans for about 150, he will definitely get the record IMO.

Also, if we beat Houston, I think that we'll take the Packers at home.. What's ****ed is that we could pull it off and still not make the POs since there are a few teams that hold tiebreakers over us.

[Sparky]

i like that they're giving it a 110% though

[Exo]

Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

If you want to start a different discussion. What do you think about Sundays Seahawks vs Niners game? Care to speculate on that?

Going to be a great defensive game. Expect low scoring.

Originally Posted by Sparky

i like that they're giving it a 110% though

Ponder just needs to throw a completion and they're golden.

[Bloozcrooz]

I think the question on everybodys mind after this week long Kaeperscratch debate. Is who's going to win on Sunday at Century Link Stadium? Two in a row on the road for the Niners or do they fall victim of the 12th man and the wrath of Russel Wilsonpalooza? I think the key is for Gore to have another good game to keep that D of Seattles honest. Cause if they are able to just pin their ears back and go after Kap like a rabid dog, its going to be a long day. That along with the struggles of trying to silence the crowd and call plays at the line of scrimmage is going to be a chore. I'm interested to see how resiliant the Niners can be after coming off a big win for them in Foxboro. Sometimes a team can get overly confindent and let it get the best of them in the following game. Assuming the Niners run game has the same kind of luck they did the last time against Seattle then I wouldn't see much cause for concern. I dont think Wilson can exploit the D in a Brady like fashion, but then again I'm sure he and the rest of them watched plenty of game film this week. Still this is a tough one to call and could very easily go either way imo. I'll think on it some more before I say who I think will come out the winner.