The American Football Thread

[Bloozcrooz]

I thought you were just being funny when you were talking about his tattoo's, but apparently there has been some controversy over them. Btw his tattoo's have nothing to do with my reasons for not liking him just now.

[Forward To Death]

Well he played a good game against one of the toughest opponents he will ever face. He watched.his lead disappear, and threw a strike to put the crowd in their place. This is very impressive to me, and I do agree he is not a proven NFL QB. Alex Smith was very reliable for the 49ers, and it could ejd up being a mistake down the road, but I'll give him credit where it's due. He was a big part of the 49ers doing what so few have in the last 10 years: he helped them beat the Patriots at Gillette.

But yeah, I can see you not being taken by the hype, you shouldn't, but at least he's earning his hype, unlike Tim Tebow, who was completing 42% of his passes.

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by Exoskeletal

1. Kaepernick is not a rookie.
2. You have not provided any actual reason why you don't like the guy. The only "reason" you gave was because of how you didn't like how Jim Harbaugh handed him the starting job. That's fine. It's a topic of much dispute, but hate on Harbaugh for that, not Kaepernick. What was Kaepernick supposed to do? The kid worked his whole life to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. He's not going to give that up because Alex was playing well.
3. I'm not trying to insist that you like Colin Kaepernick. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get an answer out of you on why you don't like him. I'm sorry man, but "I just don't like him" is not only a bad excuse for not liking somebody but it's also ****ing boring to read about on a message board. If you saw somebody in the music section saying "I don't like Pink Floyd" and he never gave an actual reason but rather said "well I just don't like them" you'd wish they'd stop posting...at least in that thread about that particular subject.
4. This may sound kind of douche-y and I'm sorry but not everybody's opinions are correct. I'll respect your opinion but I'll also reserve the right to call it stupid. You're right, Kaepernick is not Tom Brady. He is not a top ten quarterback and anybody who says he is is wrong. He is however putting together a very impressive start to his career. Don't like stats? Okay. Look at his games. I could count the amount of actual mistakes he's made on one hand through five games. He does everything Alex did except he takes it a step further by having a rocket of an arm and the speed of a wide receiver. That is why Alex isn't starting anymore. Jim made a decision for the better of the team and I agree. To me for somebody to say he hasn't been impressive just means that person doesn't know much about football. Sorry man, it's just my opinion. If I told you that Mark Sanchez impressed me Monday night would you laugh or respect my thought? I'd laugh right in my face because nobody could possibly think that Sanchez was impressive just how I actually can't think of why somebody could hate Kaepernick.

By the way, I'm a die hard 49er fan. It may be bias what I just said, but I'm also an NFL fan. I feel like my opinion would not change if I were a fan of any other team

If you care to scroll through some of my previous postings in predicting outcomes of NFL games be my guest. I think you'll find that I have a good grasp on football, and understanding of the game. Yes your right Kaeperscratch isnt a rookie, but in another since he is a rookie. He hasn't started an NFL game up until this season I'm aware of. Romo has broken countless Cowboy franchise records and surpassed Aikman and Staubach in countless areas of the game statisticly except for one. He has one playoff win and no super bowl rings. Some would call his other accomplishments impressive, and it maybe for fantasy league owners. For me I have a hard time seeing whats so impressive about it. Granted Kaeperscratch has yet to have gotten the oppurtunity to win any so its not really fair to lay that out there, but thats what I'm getting at. I'm waiting till then before I'm calling him impressive. Cause if they get to the playoff's and lose in the first round is what he did previous to that game still really all that impressive? Really? If it is to you then ok and have fun with that but to me the QB position is one thats defined by playoff wins, and super bowl rings, and the more you have the more your validating your eliteness. As far as the Sanchez comparison I dont care for Sanchez all that much, but do you think Kaeperscratch could turn that sqaud around? Sanchez on the niners would probaly have a winning record too cause the niners are THAT good of a team. Even with him fumbling snaps and throwing pics. I've loved football since I was old enough to know what football was, and one thing I've learned is a winning record during the regular season means squat in the post season. Kaps been given the benefit of starting out on a great team with a good coach and that sets the stage for great potential. What he does with it in the post season has yet to be seen but that will ultimatley define his career. Maybe he comes up short this year but wins next year. If so good for him, and maybe he wins it all this year and gets endorsments out the ass and a huge contract. Even better and I'll give all credit due to him at that time. Till then I'm not, and maybe I should dislike Harbaugh and not him for the way he got his job. It just doesn't sit well with me but I guess thats the game.

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Well he played a good game against one of the toughest opponents he will ever face. He watched.his lead disappear, and threw a strike to put the crowd in their place. This is very impressive to me, and I do agree he is not a proven NFL QB. Alex Smith was very reliable for the 49ers, and it could ejd up being a mistake down the road, but I'll give him credit where it's due. He was a big part of the 49ers doing what so few have in the last 10 years: he helped them beat the Patriots at Gillette.

But yeah, I can see you not being taken by the hype, you shouldn't, but at least he's earning his hype, unlike Tim Tebow, who was completing 42% of his passes.

Lamicheal James had a 62 yard kick return that set up the pass thrown to Crabtree did he not? And Crabtrees yards after the catch got him the touchdown that won the game.

Yes Tebow is another over hyped QB by ESPN. I hope he is a starter next year somewhere and fails miserably so I dont have to hear about how great he is all off season and during.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

Lamicheal James had a 62 yard kick return that set up the pass thrown to Crabtree did he not? And Crabtrees yards after the catch got him the touchdown that won the game.

Yes Tebow is another over hyped QB by ESPN. I hope he is a starter next year somewhere and fails miserably so I dont have to hear about how great he is all off season and during.

Now you're just splitting hairs. I said he had a part of it, possibly the most important part of any other player. The QB is the guy who's responsible for nearly every play, and I think that's enough to give him some credit for winning in NE.

I didn't say he was the only guy responsible, obviously the return set it up, and Crabtree delivered on his end. Every player involved in a play shares a certain amount of responsibility, but the QB is either going to deliver or he is going to be a goat. Kaepernick delivered as much as anyone on that GW drive.

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Now you're just splitting hairs. I said he had a part of it, possibly the most important part of any other player. The QB is the guy who's responsible for nearly every play, and I think that's enough to give him some credit for winning in NE.

Every player involved in a play shares a certain amount of responsibility, but the QB is either going to deliver or he is going to be a goat. Kaepernick delivered as much as anyone on that GW drive.

Do you he could take the niners completly on his back and come back from a 28 point deficit to tie the game?

[Forward To Death]

No, but he's never been compared to Tom Brady in this discussion, so that's a moot point if there even was one being made.

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

No, but he's never been compared to Tom Brady in this discussion, so that's a moot point if there even was one being made.

Point is, what you might consider impressive I may not. I think Bradys efforts even in loss were more impressive than what Kaeperscratch did in winning. Im just not impressed with the dude, and have given all the reasons I'm going to, or need to give.

[Thom Yorke]

Let's be honest, that last pass to Crabtree wasn't telling of anything. The pass was actually underthrown.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

Point is, what you might consider impressive I may not. I think Bradys efforts even in loss were more impressive than what Kaeperscratch did in winning. Im just not impressed with the dude, and have given all the reasons I'm going to, or need to give.

I wouldn't expect anything less, as you've gone from hating him to being unimpressed. You don't need to like him, and you don't need to be impressed. I'm personally impressed with that game in particular, 4 TDs any way you want to paint it is impressive. I can't remember the last time I wasn't impressed by 4 TDs and a win on the road, so it's difficult to start now.

Originally Posted by Thom Yorke

Let's be honest, that last pass to Crabtree wasn't telling of anything. The pass was actually underthrown.

If anything, the fact that it was underthrown gives a guy like Crabtree an even greater chance. He's slow for a WR, with great jump ball and after the catch ability. That's his bread and butter.

Even being a bad throw, it was a good decision, and I give him credit. Even Tom Brady has underthrown a receiver.