The American Football Thread

[Sparky]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Vick is a one-trick pony when he can't complete his passes consistently. That's part of their problem. Consistency is everything in football, just look at how much the Chargers **** the bed with Rivers.

He completes a good amount of them considering he knows he's about to get cracked each and every time. Not eli manning cracked either- you know where you get a penalty if you touch him. Mike Vick gets cracked.

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Vick is a one-trick pony when he can't complete his passes consistently. That's part of their problem. Consistency is everything in football, just look at how much the Chargers **** the bed with Rivers.

Vick is a victim of the drops also, I swear sometimes it feels like he has 3 dez bryants on his team. Rivers is so immobile that its been causing him to throw at too quickly and when hes not he can't hit the side of a barn. Being a Bolts fan, this year should be much of the same from last year. Maybe Peyton will snap his neck and they can squeak into the playoffs at 8-8, time will tell.

[Bloozcrooz]

Vick doesnt have time to do anything and he's Micheal Vick. I could only imagine what a non agile QB would look like in that ever collapsing pocket the Eagles have every game. You have to give even the most athletic of QB's more time to throw the ball.

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Vick is a victim of the drops also, I swear sometimes it feels like he has 3 dez bryants on his team. Rivers is so immobile that its been causing him to throw at too quickly and when hes not he can't hit the side of a barn. Being a Bolts fan, this year should be much of the same from last year. Maybe Peyton will snap his neck and they can squeak into the playoffs at 8-8, time will tell.

LMAO...hey easy on my boy Dez, but yet a valid point. He is starting to piss me off with those crucial drops every game.

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

LMAO...hey easy on my boy Dez, but yet a valid point. He is starting to piss me off with those crucial drops every game.

Dez is pissing me off. Dude has all the skills in the world except for those jerry rice hands. He needs to head out to mississipi and start catching bricks like rice. He could be a future mvp in this league with his ability but his head and hands gotta catch up.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Hes kind of predicated on running play action as that line is pretty bad. Hes been decent with his decisions. that 70 completion percentage is solid, but he definitely needs to step up his red zone productivity.

He could pass a little more though, he seems way conservative when he goes to the air, and in the red zone he's pretty bad.

It's probably just a lack of maturity. I've also never seen him have any drives where he's looked invincible, which is why I still think Luck will be the better of the two.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Vick is a victim of the drops also, I swear sometimes it feels like he has 3 dez bryants on his team. Rivers is so immobile that its been causing him to throw at too quickly and when hes not he can't hit the side of a barn. Being a Bolts fan, this year should be much of the same from last year. Maybe Peyton will snap his neck and they can squeak into the playoffs at 8-8, time will tell.

Yeah, like I said, he's so inconsistent that he costs the team wins.

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

He could pass a little more though, he seems way conservative when he goes to the air, and in the red zone he's pretty bad.

It's probably just a lack of maturity. I've also never seen him have any drives where he's looked invincible, which is why I still think Luck will be the better of the two.

I think they have him under shackles at the moment. I think when he hits the halfway point hes gonna really start improving. He has been the victim of his OC running too many misdirection plays in the red zone rather then having him drop back.

I think first week against New Orleans he look pretty stellar on a few drives. Part of that might be coming out really loose expecting to lose. Luck is certainly a prototype and a deserving #1, but RG3 might end up every bit as good with the right pieces. Work in progress.

[Forward To Death]

Luck looks like Manning in pressure situations at times. I think he will definitely be the more complete passer, because he's already shown he's a monster under pressure (the Packers and Vikings wins).

RG3 could be as good overall, but Luck definitely looks more potent as a passer.

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

Luck looks like Manning in pressure situations at times. I think he will definitely be the more complete passer, because he's already shown he's a monster under pressure (the Packers and Vikings wins).

RG3 could be as good overall, but Luck definitely looks more potent as a passer.

Luck coming out is alot more seasoned. RG3 is definitely gonna take some time to feel as comfortable in the pocket and Luck is the purest passer i've seen in decades. I guess what I mean to say is RG3 has the tools to be every bit as good, but hes got some work to put in, both in the film room and the field.