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NoseClams 03-12-2008 01:08 PM

College Vs. Pro Sports?
 
I personally am not a huge fan of college sports, but everyone in my office loves them and despises professional. Just wanting a take on other peoples opinions.

Nosmada 03-15-2008 04:25 PM

College is better, but not by much. I like the atmoshphere in college athletics, and really these kids are playing for their scholarships and what not. But i am a big fan of professional sports as well. Other than the NBA, i cannot watch it i just get the feeling that no one cares.

Laces Out Dan! 03-15-2008 07:15 PM

It a lot of sports I prefer pro. But in the case of the NBA, it looks like a men's league compared to Collegiate Basketball.

Nosmada 03-16-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LesPaul43 (Post 455697)
It a lot of sports I prefer pro. But in the case of the NBA, it looks like a men's league compared to Collegiate Basketball.

I agree with the size and what not of the players, but the excitment and effort put forward by the players is so much more. NBA i feel like nobody really cares on the court. They show up and leave, no passion.

[MERIT] 03-18-2008 01:07 PM

College football is way better than NFL. You get to see players who love the game, instead of loving money. Each team has deep rooted traditions and rivalries.

NBA is better than college basketball though. NCAA has like 8 million teams, 25 divisions, and is basically high school basketball with better jersies.

Laces Out Dan! 03-18-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 456574)
College football is way better than NFL. You get to see players who love the game, instead of loving money. Each team has deep rooted traditions and rivalries.

NBA is better than college basketball though. NCAA has like 8 million teams, 25 divisions, and is basically high school basketball with better jersies.

You must not be an actual basketball fan. Because if you watch the different between NCAA and the NBA, the NBA is a disgrace. It looks like a couple guys scrimmaging. In College, these kids are fighting. This is for a lot of them their last step before the highest level of basketball they've been dreaming about their whole lives. They bust their asses to say the least.

[MERIT] 03-18-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LesPaul43 (Post 456584)
You must not be an actual basketball fan. Because if you watch the different between NCAA and the NBA, the NBA is a disgrace. It looks like a couple guys scrimmaging. In College, these kids are fighting. This is for a lot of them their last step before the highest level of basketball they've been dreaming about their whole lives. They bust their asses to say the least.

I'm not a basketball fan per say, but I do watch it. NCAA is the minors. Anyone can make the team, seriously, anyone. NBA has real athletes who can play the game and dominate. I see NCAA as more of a team sport. Let's work together and score some lay-ups and not hurt anyone's feelings. NBA is much more entertaining as well. Guys like Iverson and Artest are disgraces to the sport, but for every disgrace there is a dozen Steve Nash's or Tim Duncan's who bust their ass for the love of the game.

Laces Out Dan! 03-18-2008 02:17 PM

Im just gonna have to agree to disagree cause I feel really strongly against what you've said. Not anyone can make the teams in NCAA. The NCAA, is the NBA of Post secondary basketball. As for the not hurt anyone's feelings...thats more the NBA. College kids love the sport so much and they would love to embarrass all the teams they come across. Im gonna leave my argument there because I dont want this to be us arguing about our opinions. If you like the NBA more, Godspeed.

naturelover 04-02-2008 11:54 PM

College sports have more heart & community....their players choose to go there. Pros are picked by the teams...the community thing isn't there.

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Originally Posted by NoseClams (Post 454241)
I personally am not a huge fan of college sports, but everyone in my office loves them and despises professional. Just wanting a take on other peoples opinions.


Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-05-2008 09:20 PM

I truly enjoy professional sports much more than college, although it's close with the NBA, and NCAA.
College baseball equals- I don't know why, but it's just not good
I vowed to quit watching football altogether.

I disagree with several posts on here by Oojay and LesPaul43. Oojay, why do you automatically think that just because the NFL players make a ton of money means that that's all they're playing for? I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but all those other college players would be in the NFL, if only they were good enough.
When people think that all professional athletes are money hungry jerks, they seem to have forgotten that with very few exceptions, they were all in college, too. The Pros are just gathering all of the very best of those same college players, and putting them in a more competitive, more talented league. I don't see why people have a problem with that.
LesPaul43, I also have to disagree with you, because, while NCAA is generally more up-tempo, and exciting right now, the NBA really picks up energy around playoff time. In fact, I hate to say it, but a lot of teams are just coasting along, and storing up energy for their playoff runs. However, I do think that the vast majority of all pros absolutely love what they do, and would still be doing it if they were making around 40k per year.

Dr_Rez 04-05-2008 11:39 PM

Not that im the biggest sports fan but i always say Pro. Simply because there are the most talented, therefore i would like to watch the best.

joderu95 05-02-2008 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LesPaul43 (Post 456584)
In College, these kids are fighting. This is for a lot of them their last step before the highest level of basketball they've been dreaming about their whole lives. They bust their asses to say the least.

That is what I like about it too. I also like watching underdogs advance well into the NCAA tournament. I get tired of the two-on-two, dump it down to the big man or kick it out for the three while the other six players stand around on the other side of the floor. The thing I like best about the NBA is that when both teams get hot it can be more fun to see the talent do what it does best - score from all over the court.

NFL and college football are a draw for me and MLB over college baseball by a lot.

"We talkin' about practice." Allen Iverson
"Well, we make a lot of money but we spend a lot too." Patrick Ewing

Laces Out Dan! 05-02-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by joderu95 (Post 475676)
That is what I like about it too. I also like watching underdogs advance well into the NCAA tournament. I get tired of the two-on-two, dump it down to the big man or kick it out for the three while the other six players stand around on the other side of the floor. The thing I like best about the NBA is that when both teams get hot it can be more fun to see the talent do what it does best - score from all over the court.

NFL and college football are a draw for me and MLB over college baseball by a lot.

"We talkin' about practice." Allen Iverson
"Well, we make a lot of money but we spend a lot too." Patrick Ewing

That was hilarious, I love that interview.

five9four 06-07-2008 11:16 PM

College for sure.

Professionals seem as if they care more for the money. Sure they are the highest level, but to some extent they get away with so much more.

College athletes are playing for the pride of their school and the atmosphere of the arena or field while they are playing is so much more intense. I also admire them for attending college to earn a degree while putting in many hours for practice and games.

rundonnierun 06-13-2008 02:05 PM

I think the professional's greed is affecting the collegiate level. Basketball keeps luring away kids after one or two years of college and very few underclassmen pan out in the pros. Then again there are very few seniors that enter into the pros any more.

Football is tainted at both levels and is an overall problem, even though I love to watch it regardless. MLB is a mess despite there are some young promising players that make it exciting to watch again. I hate the big business side of sports.

lucifer_sam 07-30-2008 12:43 AM

Basketball - College >>>>>>> Pro
Baseball - College > Pro
Football - Pro > College (just because of the ****ing BCS)
Hockey - Lol what? Pro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> College

And since I really don't give a **** about any other professional sports (save soccer), I can't really comment on them.

Laces Out Dan! 07-30-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 502075)
Basketball - College >>>>>>> Pro
Baseball - College > Pro
Football - Pro > College (just because of the ****ing BCS)
Hockey - Lol what? Pro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> College

And since I really don't give a **** about any other professional sports (save soccer), I can't really comment on them.

If we just talk about amateur to pro...I'd say that certain tournaments, Junior Hockey is as if not more exciting than the NHL playoffs. The World Junior Hockey Championships are amazing to watch. Also doesn't hurt to see my boys lay the beats on every country.

ProggyMan 07-30-2008 06:26 PM

The BCS rules, it means every game in the regular season is of the utmost importance.

lucifer_sam 07-30-2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LesPaul43 (Post 502252)
If we just talk about amateur to pro...I'd say that certain tournaments, Junior Hockey is as if not more exciting than the NHL playoffs. The World Junior Hockey Championships are amazing to watch. Also doesn't hurt to see my boys lay the beats on every country.

Oh, absolutely. There's ten times more fights in juniors. It's so much more intense because unlike the NHL, players are still trying to get somewhere better and they try so much harder and fights are so much bloodier.

To this day, my only regret is that I never played ice hockey. I played deck hockey and I was damn good, but my family could never afford to let me play ice hockey.

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 502266)
The BCS rules, it means every game in the regular season is of the utmost importance.

It also means 10-20 fucks control the welfare of an entire league. The bowl system doesn't work, the BCS is corrupt, and they put whatever teams in them that they feel will make for a good show. If every game mattered, then how the fuck did Kansas (11-1) finish eighth, and how did LSU (10-2) finish second? No, it's fucking stupid.

Laces Out Dan! 07-30-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 502271)
To this day, my only regret is that I never played ice hockey.

I agree to that, I never had much of an interest in hockey when I was around the age when kids started playing..just been in the last few years that its become a love. I always just played Baseball and Basketball. Basketball has lasted until now, I stopped playing baseball competitively when I was like 14.

ProggyMan 07-30-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 502271)
Oh, absolutely. There's ten times more fights in juniors. It's so much more intense because unlike the NHL, players are still trying to get somewhere better and they try so much harder and fights are so much bloodier.

To this day, my only regret is that I never played ice hockey. I played deck hockey and I was damn good, but my family could never afford to let me play ice hockey.



It also means 10-20 fucks control the welfare of an entire league. The bowl system doesn't work, the BCS is corrupt, and they put whatever teams in them that they feel will make for a good show. If every game mattered, then how the fuck did Kansas (11-1) finish eighth, and how did LSU (10-2) finish second? No, it's fucking stupid.

First of all last year was an anomaly, but ignoring that Kansas had a much weaker schedule and lost a key game to Missouri at the end of the year. Compare to LSU...Do you have a better system?

lucifer_sam 07-30-2008 09:46 PM

@ LesPaul: You're a Canuck and you've only recently been attracted to hockey? I thought that WAS Canada. I've always loved hockey, ever since the last time the Pens were in the Stanley Cup final ('91-'92, fyi), and it's pretty huge around here. Like a cancer since Crosby arrived, actually.

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 502283)
First of all last year was an anomaly, but ignoring that Kansas had a much weaker schedule and lost a key game to Missouri at the end of the year. Compare to LSU...Do you have a better system?

It's called playoffs. Or the four-seed playoff set they've been talking about (but not doing anything about) for years. I understand that there are end-of-season rivalry games and that the players are students, but the season isn't nearly strenuous enough (at an average of 12 games) not to merit a three or four round playoff system, and still be done by the same time.

I mean, this is why college basketball is so good: because at the end of the season, virtually all good teams get to compete and everyone has a realistic chance of winning. This year was the first year in history that all four #1 seeds made it to the Final Four.

Laces Out Dan! 07-30-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 502313)
@ LesPaul: You're a Canuck and you've only recently been attracted to hockey? I thought that WAS Canada. I've always loved hockey, ever since the last time the Pens were in the Stanley Cup final ('91-'92, fyi), and it's pretty huge around here. Like a cancer since Crosby arrived, actually.

How about, 2008 being the last time... haha

ProggyMan 07-30-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 502313)
It's called playoffs. Or the four-seed playoff set they've been talking about (but not doing anything about) for years. I understand that there are end-of-season rivalry games and that the players are students, but the season isn't nearly strenuous enough (at an average of 12 games) not to merit a three or four round playoff system, and still be done by the same time.

I mean, this is why college basketball is so good: because at the end of the season, virtually all good teams get to compete and everyone has a realistic chance of winning. This year was the first year in history that all four #1 seeds made it to the Final Four.

What exactly is the point of a 4 team playoff system? Considering the great games secondary bowls give us and that with such a system the regular season's value would plummet, I think this would add needless weight to the schedule without actually giving us more excitement. Let the regular season do it's job.

lucifer_sam 07-30-2008 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LesPaul43 (Post 502318)
How about, 2008 being the last time... haha

Low blow son. We did kept 80% of our talent over the trade deadline, although the loss of Hossa did hit us pretty hard. I say we're still contenders next year. I don't see the 'nucks pulling it off soon.

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 502323)
What exactly is the point of a 4 team playoff system? Considering the great games secondary bowls give us and that with such a system the regular season's value would plummet, I think this would add needless weight to the schedule without actually giving us more excitement. Let the regular season do it's job.

I go to a Big Ten school and I can't more heartily disagree. Bowls are an excuse to overpromote end-of-season antics and are rarely enjoyed by the teams' true fans (i.e. the students). Moreover, seasons which end during the third week of November leave three weeks before end-of-semester. And postseason football is one of sports' best joys. Also, I don't much enjoy one or two losses to be season ending.

ProggyMan 07-30-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 502326)
Low blow son. We did kept 80% of our talent over the trade deadline, although the loss of Hossa did hit us pretty hard. I say we're still contenders next year. I don't see the 'nucks pulling it off soon.


I go to a Big Ten school and I can't more heartily disagree. Bowls are an excuse to overpromote end-of-season antics and are rarely enjoyed by the teams' true fans (i.e. the students). Moreover, seasons which end during the third week of November leave three weeks before end-of-semester. And postseason football is one of sports' best joys. Also, I don't much enjoy one or two losses to be season ending.

So your argument boils down to you not liking bowls? One or two losses aren't season ending, LSU twice won with one or two losses. If there was a playoff we'd lose the mad scramble for those two spots at the end of the season. With a playoff you'd have teams competing for...a chance to play in the quarter final.

Laces Out Dan! 07-31-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 502326)
Low blow son. We did kept 80% of our talent over the trade deadline, although the loss of Hossa did hit us pretty hard. I say we're still contenders next year. I don't see the 'nucks pulling it off soon.

We're a team full of young up and coming talent. Regrettably we lost one of our best prospects recently, RIP LB. But we just need some grit, and some leaders. If Sundin decides to keep playing, he'll make a good addition to the team short term.

lucifer_sam 07-31-2008 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 502334)
So your argument boils down to you not liking bowls? One or two losses aren't season ending, LSU twice won with one or two losses. If there was a playoff we'd lose the mad scramble for those two spots at the end of the season. With a playoff you'd have teams competing for...a chance to play in the quarter final.

It's not that I don't like bowls, but that I'll never get a chance to see one because they are overpriced, overproduced and overcommercialized. And they all take place in the south. College football is a mad scramble the entire season, and I'm sure the postseason would only be more exciting. It does get more interesting as the season progresses, especially the last few weeks, which are so crucial (as proven by WVU's backyard brawl loss to Pitt). However, I still think that a postseason is a must, especially with the disparity in schedules between conferences. The picks for #1 and #2 are sometimes subjective (as proven by LSU's inclusion this year), which is utter bullsh!t.

The four-seed playoff has been talked about since the National Championship was created, and they still haven't done anything about it. They should at least initiate that.

WWWP 07-31-2008 11:41 PM

I like them all equally, I suppose.

rsb1094 08-01-2008 07:25 PM

college football is better, but really...who sits around all day saturday like they do on sunday's?!

ProggyMan 08-02-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 502602)
It's not that I don't like bowls, but that I'll never get a chance to see one because they are overpriced, overproduced and overcommercialized. And they all take place in the south. College football is a mad scramble the entire season, and I'm sure the postseason would only be more exciting. It does get more interesting as the season progresses, especially the last few weeks, which are so crucial (as proven by WVU's backyard brawl loss to Pitt). However, I still think that a postseason is a must, especially with the disparity in schedules between conferences. The picks for #1 and #2 are sometimes subjective (as proven by LSU's inclusion this year), which is utter bullsh!t.

The four-seed playoff has been talked about since the National Championship was created, and they still haven't done anything about it. They should at least initiate that.

It'll be the same way with a 4 seed play-off system, just as many pissed off people, just as subjective...

WWWP 08-03-2008 04:13 AM

While on the subject, who are your favorite teams?

DJ Phoenix 08-03-2008 04:28 AM

I'm from Michigan, so Im a die hard Detroit everything, good or bad. Hell, tough being a long suffering Lions fan, but I am.

Oh yeah, there's only 1 college football team that matters boys and girls:


University of Michigan!!!

Go Blue!!!

lucifer_sam 08-03-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ Phoenix (Post 503230)
I'm from Michigan, so Im a die hard Detroit everything, good or bad. Hell, tough being a long suffering Lions fan, but I am.

Oh yeah, there's only 1 college football team that matters boys and girls:


University of Michigan!!!

Go Blue!!!

Goddammit. I'm a Pens fan and a Penn State fan. Looks like I hate you. :sigh:

On a less sour subject, things are looking very, very good for the Steelers. This was our best draft year in well over a decade and we have plenty of returning talent. Dennis Dixon = the shiznit.

WWWP 08-03-2008 11:49 PM

For me:
NFL - Colts, Steelers
NBA - Mavericks, Suns
College Football - I don't have a favorite team...
College Basketball - I don't watch much, see above answer.
NBL - Diamondbacks

ProggyMan 08-03-2008 11:52 PM

NBL? NL?
NFL: Rams
MLB: Cardinals
Pro B-Ball: Warriors/Hawks
College B-Ball: Stanford
College F-Ball: Stanford (:p:)

WWWP 08-03-2008 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 503384)
NBL? NL?
NFL: Rams
MLB: Cardinals
Pro B-Ball: Warriors/Hawks
College B-Ball: Stanford
College F-Ball: Stanford (:p:)

Correct me if I'm mistaken but NBL= National Baseball League, yes?

lucifer_sam 08-04-2008 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 503386)
Correct me if I'm mistaken but NBL= National Baseball League, yes?

POSER! MLB = Major League Baseball.

It's okay, I don't watch it either. Partly because of the salary cap, and partly because the Pirates haven't had a winning season in sixteen years and don't look like they ever intend to do so.

ProggyMan 08-04-2008 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 503386)
Correct me if I'm mistaken but NBL= National Baseball League, yes?

No, there's the Nl, al and MLB.

WWWP 08-04-2008 10:49 AM

I knew that, I was just testing you guys. ;)
I'm going to start fact checking everything I write on google...


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